A bit of a round up.

I’m currently sunning my bony proverbial in Marmaris, Turkey. Very nice at a balmy 35c it is too.
I’ve been sort of keeping up with events, but basically we’re enjoying it so much, I just haven’t found time to post something.
Basically I just thought it would be a good idea to start a new post, just so it looks a bit more relevant.

There’s been a couple of events; some good, some not so, in my opinion.
First off, the great news is that John Mcginn has extended his contract.
I think everyone’s happy about that and my son in law summed it up perfectly for me, in saying that he fully deserves it. Of course, I think he was talking about the no doubt massive payrise.
We weren’t sure what McGinn was earning, but I had £47k in mind, where the sil’s thought were that he was quite well down the Aston Villa pay grade.
Given that he’s the captain and looks like he will be in future too, I’d guess he’s probably going to be earning around the £150k a week mark. In the scheme of things, as much as it makes me feel sick, he’s good value if my guess is anywhere near the mark. I love the bloke as a Villa player, because he represents everything I want to see from a footballer.

And then it’s onto the shirt.
Is it really £70? Wow, that’s a jump isn’t it?
My grandsons, (who are also on holiday with us) think it’s “quality”. Which leads me to a bit of tangent.
Before we came out here, I’d told them about the dirt cheap, but reasonable quality of the snide football shirts. They went out yesterday and came back with an Al Nassr and a PSG shirt. Yes, with Messi and Ronaldo on the back.
Anyway, I think the new Villa shirt is meh; a much of a muchness, albeit with a much better badge.
Will the missus buy it for me, as she usually does? I really don’t know.

And then the thing that disappointed was us being sponsored by a betting company.
I’m not going to get “holier than thou” about it, but for me, the quicker these companies get banned from this sort of advertising, the better.
Some of you long time readers may remember that the site used to advertise Bet365, so I may come across as a bit hypercritical, but that wasn’t my choice. It was an attempt to try and monetise the site so it paid for itself. It didn’t work, as Oohah (there’s a blast from the past!) weren’t the pr/marketing types. To be honest, the live score widget for the Prem was good though, I thought.
Anyway we sacked it off and still have the “don’t gamble” thing at the bottom of the page.

So why don’t I like gambling?
I do. If it can be done at a sensible, affordable level. Then, I have no problem with it.
But I’ve also seen someone get into serious trouble over it. So much so that it led to payday loans to try and fund it.
Long story short, is someone who earns minimum wage was around £3500 in debt.
No, it’s not one of those stories where he loses his house and all, but it caused serious stress.
All this from a previously very sensible person too.
That’s why I don’t like it.
I think the issue for me is that in a world where every other shop seems to be a bookies, is that it’s pushing something that’s already overly available and for me, very dangerous.
I was reading an article recently that talked about this. My memory isn’t what it used to be, but I get the feeling that it suggested around 3 million people in the UK have a gambling problem to some extent.

Consider that the Coates family Bet365’s owners) are amongst the richest in the UK and you instantly get what it’s all about.
Taking Apple’s cheap labour aside, I can appreciate a company making a profit. And their’s is obscene.
But when it comes at the cost of people suffering, hmm.

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  1. Badger123
    Badger123 June 24, 2023 at 5:48 pm . Reply

    Oops. For clarity, I should correct something.
    It was both of us who aren’t PR types, not just Ooahh.

  2. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson June 24, 2023 at 7:02 pm . Reply

    Hi Badger take a taxi boat or a bus and see Icmeler and Turunc local seaside places, done 18 years in Turkey 🇹🇷 you’ll find it’s interesting. Hope you at least see other small towns like I did. Enjoy I’m organising another cruise with family soon you enjoy yours .

  3. Holte
    Holte June 24, 2023 at 9:58 pm . Reply

    I enjoyed Marmaris Badger when I was there about a decade ago so I’m guessing it’s changed a bit now. It was bloody hot though 🥵
    Like Bill said, Icmeler is great too and is the quieter neighbour.
    Hopefully we will have signed someone before you get back to give us something to talk about other than our disappointment of the shirt sponsor.

  4. badger123
    badger123 June 25, 2023 at 9:09 am . Reply

    Ichmeler’s on the list. I’ve stayed there previously and I think this might be our 8th time in Turkey. We love it and I honestly think Turkish food is the best I’ve eaten anywhere.

    Anyway, to try and stay on track 🙂
    We’ve signed a couple of kids from Linfield for a significant fee.
    I know I’ve slated our academy for years, but I do think we might actually get to see some results this time;

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-complete-double-transfer-27193732

    1. RSS
      RSS June 25, 2023 at 1:29 pm . Reply

      Maybe the next George Best?
      ( Wishful thinking😁)
      Enjoy your hols Badger.

  5. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 June 25, 2023 at 7:08 pm . Reply

    Have a great time in Turkey Badger – I know you will.

    Been a couple of times – the missus has been far more often – as our daughter worked in Alanya as a children’s rep with a well known holiday firm.

    Strangely (or maybe not) we have a granddaughter Alanya – shades of the Beckhams :-).

    1. Hitchens60
      Hitchens60 June 25, 2023 at 7:08 pm . Reply

      Or even 🙂

  6. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 June 26, 2023 at 5:13 pm . Reply

    On the question of Saudi clubs signing players from the EPL.

    In principle should be no problem – but and there’s a big but – take the Neves deal as an example.

    £47m for a player with just one year left on his contract – a player, at 26, who should be playing in the European Championship. That’s an inflated price beyond any reason.

    Other than his agent and his association with Wolves who, surprise, surprise have got problems with FFP – or, should I say did have problems with FFP.

    Then look at Chelsea, similar FFP problems who are allegedly unloading four high earners to Saudi for inflated prices. They say there is no link but I think we’ll find their owner has a business link with them.

    If Derby got done for selling their stadium for an inflated price to try and avoid FFP isn’t there a case here for the EPL to look at?

    Of course they won’t will they?

  7. BFR
    BFR June 26, 2023 at 7:29 pm . Reply

    Some interesting free agents out there, having seen the listings – with a deeper squad needed, would the following appeal to anyone:
    Moutinho (Wolves), Lanzini (West Ham), Moura (Spurs), Firmino (Liverpool), Maitland Niles (Arsenal). I’ve only picked the best of the ‘released’ players – there are a few more such as Longstaff at Newcastle and McArthur at Palace who could do a job but wondering if those first 5 are worth a sniff?

    1. BFR
      BFR June 26, 2023 at 7:41 pm . Reply

      Worth adding that I appreciate we’re not shopping in the bargain-bucket section and these players would be back-up and used in the cups, unless they were to produce some phenomenal form.

      1. Hitchens60
        Hitchens60 June 27, 2023 at 7:15 am . Reply

        Firmino – hardly bargain basement! Blimey that would be a coup but he’s off to Barca or another Champions League side.

        I’ve always liked Moura but he’s a little like Bailey – very good in flashes.

        I think getting Tielemans, a proven international and only 26, on a free was an astute piece of business on par with the Kamara deal – although, I suspect he will be one of our higher earners. I was surprised other clubs weren’t in for him or did Emery persuade him Villa was the place to be and that he would get game time?

        1. Ardent Villain
          Ardent Villain June 27, 2023 at 5:22 pm . Reply

          Think that Tielemans on a ‘free’ was good business; but I’m surprised that the only links I see (OK, I know it’s only “B’ham Live”…) are for yet more midfielders of central defenders.

          To me, those would have to be squad-fillers, in that I can’t see us attracting some CL player who’d cost £50m+, and we’re already pretty well-off in those areas.

          I want to see Villa doing some serious business for full-backs, wingers and maybe another striker.

          1. Hitchens60
            Hitchens60 June 27, 2023 at 5:38 pm . Reply

            Spot on Ardent – it’s generally thought that Emery wants a full back, a winger and a striker.

            How that sits with the continuing Pau Torres rumours – left sided centre back – is hard to fathom. If Emery is after Torres then either Carlos or Mings will be ‘surplus to requirements – unless that is Emery sees Carlos playing at left full back – not beyond possibility!

            Emery is such a good coach it will be interesting to see how he shapes the squad.

            HAPPY DAYS

            UTMV

  8. badger123
    badger123 June 28, 2023 at 11:39 am . Reply

    BS story of the day. Man U to offer £40mill for Martinez;

    https://www.footballinsider247.com/revealed-aston-villa-braced-for-man-united-offer-for-emiliano-martinez-after-new-twist-sources/

    Utter joke. Double it and it might be nearer the mark.

    1. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum June 28, 2023 at 12:20 pm . Reply

      They always take the p1ss. But that was when Fergie ruled the roost.
      Drivel.
      On the Rice deal at £105m+, would you think he’s worth more than Jack who’s a real game changer? £55m at most for me…Another Kalvin Philips type signing…
      Where are our signings though?????

      1. Ardent Villain
        Ardent Villain June 28, 2023 at 12:44 pm . Reply

        Rice is one of those players who seems constantly over-hyped by the media.
        Sure, he’s a ‘good’ player – possibly a ‘very good’ player; but anything around the £100m for him seems vastly over-priced to me. Maybe that’s what inflation is doing…

        1. RSS
          RSS June 29, 2023 at 6:38 am . Reply

          Rice, an ok player but certainly no Zinedine Zidane and £100m?
          Just a tad overpriced imo.

    2. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain June 28, 2023 at 12:46 pm . Reply

      Yeah, right.
      And they won’t offer even that in cash, they’ll try to swap him for The Donkey that they want to get rid-of !

  9. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 June 28, 2023 at 6:57 pm . Reply

    See Ramsey and Archer played for U21’s with Ramsey setting up Archer for the first goal – 2-0 England.

    A Villa 1 – 2 then.

  10. RSS
    RSS June 29, 2023 at 6:58 am . Reply

    This is taken from thehardtackle.com…
    “Though they are flush with cash, there are indications that Villa can only spend a little in this window. They have concerns with FFP and could look at bargain transfers to add quality to their squad in this market.”
    Given the lack of action on the transfer front could there be some foundation to this?

    1. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum June 29, 2023 at 8:12 am . Reply

      We must have something to spend. We haven’t spent a bean so far. Even if we’re allowed to spend £80m on say 4 players, a £20m player doesn’t get u much in todays market.
      Shame we’re not one of the Sky 6. We could break the rules as we see fit…Patience required here. I can see Jacob’s brother stepping up along with Archer this season. Don’t think the Moore brothers are going to make it though…

      1. RSS
        RSS June 29, 2023 at 8:51 am . Reply

        Or maybe one marquee signing?

        1. Hitchens60
          Hitchens60 June 29, 2023 at 4:09 pm . Reply

          According to David Michaels (MOMS) Purslow told the Fan Consultation Group that Villa would ‘go hard’ in the summer window.

          That suggests they do have financial room to invest in new players.

          Pau Torres – Sky are saying £45m probably over a 5 year contract that’s just £9m off the bottom line per season plus wages of course.

          Wages are more of an issue with FFP than spread transfer fees especially as all of an incoming fee can be added to the bottom line.

          Expect we’ll see a few departing to raise some cash and reduce the wage bill – the most intriguing is whether Villa ship Coutinho out to Saudi for an inflated fee!

  11. Gerry
    Gerry June 29, 2023 at 9:49 am . Reply

    Pau Torres, 26, from Villareal. Seems to be a lot in Villa wanting to sign this guy. He has already worked with our manager and also has plenty of European experience. It does seem very quiet out there.

    1. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum June 29, 2023 at 3:17 pm . Reply

      Seems as though it’s confirmed!!!! Whoooo!!!!

    2. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain June 29, 2023 at 3:19 pm . Reply

      According to “B’ham Live”, the deal’s virtually been done.

  12. Adam
    Adam June 29, 2023 at 3:56 pm . Reply

    Top top signing, great player and can certainly help take us to another level this season. From my own view of the team I think a RB a number 10 (I would love Eze) and a very pacey winger is needed now. I’d love to see Archer given a big chance this season, he’s a natural in the box, I personally believe give him and Watkins the same chances Archer would score more.

    1. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain June 29, 2023 at 4:43 pm . Reply

      Certainly think it’s time for Archer to be given a chance to show what he can do in the Prem. No point in loaning him out yet again, we alreadyknow that he can score in the lower divisions.

      1. Bum Bum
        Bum Bum June 29, 2023 at 6:57 pm . Reply

        And for England, Ardent.
        Even at Boro he was scoring very regularly. Gotta give the lad a chance.

        1. Ardent Villain
          Ardent Villain June 29, 2023 at 7:19 pm . Reply

          I’d forgotten about his England U21 exploits!

  13. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 June 29, 2023 at 4:10 pm . Reply

    Test – just resetting my details to avoid a lag on posting.

  14. Sidforever
    Sidforever June 29, 2023 at 6:56 pm . Reply

    Good business all around today. Torres is someone Emery holds in the highest regard, which bodes well for our future. With Tilesman already signed, we are stronger already than last year.

    Further Kaine Kesler-Hayden loaned out to Plymouth for the season. They have been promoted to the championship, which will be good for his development. Further, they had Aziz last season and proved they could be trusted with developing our players.

    So whose next Tyler Adams or Harvey Barnes or both?

    1. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain June 29, 2023 at 7:18 pm . Reply

      “So whose next Tyler Adams or Harvey Barnes or both?”

      Personally I don’t see why we need any more midfielders – surely we’ve got enough?

      I’d rather see another quality RB to give Matty Cash some competition, and one or more quality wingers, and I also think we need a better back-up to Martinez in goal…

  15. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 June 29, 2023 at 7:47 pm . Reply

    We need to strengthen the right side with a wide player and a full back in the style of Moreno who could play as a wing back.

    With respect to Archer, who I think has earned the chance to show he can cut it in the EPL, we also need another proven striker.

    Assuming Emery signs Torres will he go three at the back – or, at least, have theatre option – plus two wing backs?

    Very intriguing.

    1. Hitchens60
      Hitchens60 June 29, 2023 at 7:48 pm . Reply

      *have that option

  16. Holte
    Holte June 29, 2023 at 9:23 pm . Reply

    I think Torres can play LB as well as CB. With Ashley Young gone we need cover at RB for Cash. A quality RW to improve on Bailey and Traore surely is a priority. A back up for Martinez is definitely needed. I would love Harvey Barnes at VP, although he usually plays LW although we need strength in depth given our European matches too. I would also like Eze for the RW position but can’t see that happening. Is Guendouzi still in Enery’s thoughts? Add to the above Archer and Aaron Ramsey and we will have a quality squad. I think the next two weeks could see a lot more activity in the transfer market leading up to our first friendly game against Walsall. I do believe that when the transfer window closes, we will be one of the biggest spenders. I don’t think Monchi would have been lured by a £70-£80m budget. Don’t be surprised if it’s double that.

    1. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain June 30, 2023 at 11:19 am . Reply

      “I don’t think Monchi would have been lured by a £70-£80m budget.” – that’s a very good point, and one that I’d certainly forgotten.

      I’m enjoying the fact that none of the national media (& that includes the TV outlets) seem to have any clue what Villa are doing until the club makes an announcement – or perhaps they simply aren’t interested…

  17. RSS
    RSS June 30, 2023 at 2:48 pm . Reply

    Off topic but can you believe Jesse Lingard has been released by Forest?
    How the mighty have fallen.

    1. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain June 30, 2023 at 3:36 pm . Reply

      Remember Dele Alli ? – another who seemed to make a very rapid fall from grace recently.

      1. Bum Bum
        Bum Bum June 30, 2023 at 4:35 pm . Reply

        He’s back at Goodison.

      2. RSS
        RSS June 30, 2023 at 4:50 pm . Reply

        Selling pies or programmes?

        1. Hitchens60
          Hitchens60 June 30, 2023 at 5:35 pm . Reply

          🙂

          Is he any good at either?

          1. RSS
            RSS July 1, 2023 at 1:31 pm . Reply

            England U21 v Portugal U21 tomorrow at 17:00 on UEFA.tv.
            Yeah some footy 😍

        2. Bum Bum
          Bum Bum July 1, 2023 at 5:11 pm . Reply

          Neither. RSS. He’s spraying aftershave on fans who’ve just used the toilet.

          1. RSS
            RSS July 1, 2023 at 11:05 pm . Reply

            Eau de toilette BB?
            😁

  18. RSS
    RSS July 2, 2023 at 1:44 pm . Reply

    David de Gea released by Man U?
    This is a weird pre season, like football is readjusting itself and ain’t willing (or able) to pay contracts of £375k per week to Joe Average and/or prima donna’s?

  19. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 July 2, 2023 at 4:54 pm . Reply

    Completely off topic but I see the Aussies are ‘cheating’ yet again,

    Winning at any cost is unacceptable.

    1. RSS
      RSS July 2, 2023 at 5:02 pm . Reply

      Remember that under arm bowl back in the day?
      It’s in their DNA Hitch.

      1. Hitchens60
        Hitchens60 July 2, 2023 at 8:19 pm . Reply

        I do RSS.

        And sandpaper as well.

        Surprising how all their bans were lifted just before the World Cup!

        Best day of my cricketing life was to be at Edgbaston to watch England stuff them in the WC semi final.

        Now we need to get ‘nasty’ and beat these cheats over the next three games.

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