Terry Jones has submitted the following.
Now after yet another home defeat at the hands of the Hammers is it not the time Randy to start and make decisions for yourself and not listen to those who know sweet fa about football?
New Contract or P45 for Lambert a decision needs to be taken.
How many home games have we won? is it three?
Is this what we want for our great club or do we want to see a club that is challenging?
We have been in the premier league since day one of it’s formation and have only been top of the table for brief periods.
But is this not better than what we have now, a team made up of players who would struggle to beat an under 10s team?
Now some say Lambert has not had enough money to spend. In my opinion he has but he has wasted it.
In two summers he’s bought (is it eleven?) players, most from the lower leagues home and abroad instead of bringing in four or five half decent players.
Since he has been in charge we as a club have broken some very unwelcome records and if he is allowed to carry on will only break more and even end up being relegated.This in my mind will be a disaster for the club and fans.
So now the time has come to make the ultimate decision Either Lambert has to go, the club has to be sold else our great history will count for nothing when we are struggling in the lower leagues of English football.
Come on you fans, let’s hear what decisions you want to see made not only to keep our club where it is but to take this club forward. As for myself it would be a disaster for not only Villa but for the many fans old and young to see a great club die because of bad decision making by the owner and more so by a manager who is the worst in the clubs history.Does not Englands second city deserve a top football team?
I say yes, so Randy Lerner, time to make the right decisions.
I’m not sure I see the point in this Terry, as it strikes me Lerner has made a decision and Lambert will be staying. I’ve put it up anyway.
As for what decisions I would want well that’s easy.
Hire a top manager and give him £300 mill to play with.
It isn’t going to happen though.
Badger mate if the decision as been made is it Lerner,s or the boards and i fully agree with your comment.But surely if Lerner as the clout he can overturn any decision the board make on his behalf.Trouble is the fans are left in limbo not knowing what the future holds only speculation.
Of course he can overturn any decision. It’s his club.
So you have to assume it’s ultimately his decision.
And he’s made it.
Even if we were to be relegated, Lambert will be staying, imo.
If there was any doubt about it, we would not have approached him about it yet.
I think I know what the future holds, along with many others and I don’t see it being rosy.
Is anyone aware that if we lose another 2 home games it will give us our biggest home defeat record since we were formed. As wev never lost more than 9 at home in a season. Another unwanted record by lamberk and Lerner complete jokers. But hey ho there were 60,000 at home yesterday as we had 25,000 fans that went in disguised so no one new they were there. Lerner was there also in hiding.
Yes, our home record is shocking.
I also read that we haven’t won two consecutive home games in 3 and a half years.
That’s just scandalous.
I also saw the story that said Lerner secretly watches games down the Villa, but just fail to believe it.
Only one man makes the decisions and he doesn’t give a toss what any of us think ! Vote with your feet
panic stations sack sack sack !!!!!!!!!!!
always the answer innit sack the manager. well I was one of many wanted lambert and theirs no hiding from the obvious. lambert made and makes mistakes. I think the caution nature of the tactics we adopt, stem from the weakness of the team. in protecting the weaknesses we aren’t attacking with the strengths.
instead of a pointless article we should get behind um, we need 2 beat Cardiff which is the start. it cant be missed by the management. how many times we fall 2 goals down only 2 start playing. we need 2 play without fear of losing , need 2 go 4 the win.
‘I think the caution nature of the tactics we adopt, stem from the weakness of the team.’
Is this the team that Lamberk has assembled that you’re talking about? The team that he coaches all week? The team that regularly has 25-30% possession each game and musters 1 shot on target. The team that has pass completion rates of 50 odd %?
You’re right Nath, we should get behind them, Of the 9 games that we’ve lost at home all season, how many can you remember when the fans (32-40k of them) didn’t cheer and clap the team onto the pitch and roar encouragement as the first whistle went? That’s right, a big fat zero. So the fans have been behind them and they’ve been absolute toss thanks to Lamberk’s ineptitude.
It’s easy to have a go at Terry and the like who expect better by using the same tired arguments about not being ‘true supporters’ if you dare to criticise, But what you’ve written in reply holds about as much water as a tea spoon.
no the fans have got behind um, this is down 2 the villa fans ,who are the best, knowledgeable fans around. this is not down 2 the magnificent football they av endured
So what’s you’re point? We are getting behind them and they’re still wank.
*your*
point is we carry on until the end of season, b4 hanging ppl. cos we are wank with us fans behind, without backing from the stands theres no hope ~ it could be as little 3 wins maybe enough 4 safety
The good news is that if we were relegated, apart from 2 or 3, we’d keep our team together as they are very average players and no one else in the Prem would be desperate for them. I think Villa are a ‘mid-table’ club. In term of finance, support, etc. that’s what our expectations realistically should be. When Martin had millions to spend we over achieved a little but where did it get us? (Wembley once). But that’s the best we could wish for now.
I see nothing in where Lambert is taking this team to suggest that there is a brighter future. In one sense, Villa will now always be a promising young team at best. We haven’t got the resources to progress any further. Bigger clubs, we have dropped in that league table too, will always come in and buy our talent. Lambert’s style of football isn’t going to win us many games, too little possession and too few goals. Therefore, I think he is inadequate as a manager. I wish we could have got Martinez that time.
Saying that and wondering whether to stick or twist, I’m inclined to say ‘gamble’. Better to live a day as a lion than a lifetime as a fly.
*I say all this as an ex-pat, armchair supporter who lives a 100miles away from Brum and hasn’t been up to Villa Park for 3 years.
did I just step of a alien ship, aving been autopsied on (removed my brain no doubt)
we av creative players in areas which count. our midfield is sadly by far one of the weakest in the top 2 divisions.
we get points by pace and intelligent strong forward play, this has been same under last few managers and 4 past 5 years. only when we get better quality will things change. lambert just wants 2 the magical 40 points in any ways he can if that meant a point a game.
finally the board will not change the mind about the job lamberts done or doing just cos of a lame defeat 2 hammers. so this article is a waste of time
Wow, wow, hang on lads Terry I’ll start with you mate, when you first showed your face on here I thought what a plonka, now I’m with you all the way, Badger, we know what ever Prat face says goes, but we don’t have to take it, Next will be OK what do we do? Simple lads just don’t go don’t buy, don’t even think it will be OK on the day, you have to talk with your feet to save our club, poster gang’s will not do nothing, just walk away, I know loads that have said that’s it I’m gone. Do you realise your hard learnt money is making someone happy at home and its not you.give your money to cancer and feel better for it.
Bill mate some still seem to think we are safe or that god forbid if we do get relegated we are going to bounce straight back up.Bouncing straight back may have bee viable in the late sixties early seventies but it;s a different ball game now as a lot of clubs have found out so those who still believe like Nath &co want to come into the real world and start to ask questions about the decision making.As you and i both know that even in the dark days of the third division Villa were getting higher gates than Man U and the likes but it will not happen this time round.
I do live in the real world unlike u who probably moaned all the way through 1981 league campaign
NATH was you there in the seventies or are you just a fair weather supporter seems like it to me.
I don’t see how anyone who is currently supporting villa is the fairweather type .
unless you don’t believe your own posts of villa being a substandard relegation threatened team with a bad manager and worse owner
not the things fair weather fans are attracted to.
Nath honestly mate you have to believe that not all are none believer’s we love the Villa just like you, Terry and me have seen good days, you have not as yet, not all at our age don’t want to see that again, sorry to sound like a preacher, but I can as a young lad remember a older guy say to me, I wished I had listened to him when he had seen it all before, this to us is back again. Nath I thought silly old sod. Please don’t think we don’t care we do. Sorry Tel your 5 years younger.
Bill, you’re right, we don’t have to go and yesterday (even though my grandkids are itching to go to a game again and the son-in-law has got the taste again), I refused to go, as I knew what I’d be seeing.
As for cancer research, I already donate to them mate. Pretty much a no-brainer really, given that I’m a heavy smoker.
u just jump back further a decade u mean in 1973 when we was down in the old 3rd division with Manchester utd ~ wots ur point ????
u moan when we win more than a defeat ur confusing me u know we lost rite
while u wanna play terry, since I came 2 this site, u aven’t had one decent thing 2 say about villa. so don’t try prove ur worth 2me
Terry your post is flawed and misleading.
I’m sorry to say these sought of comments fail to address or help the situation.
To simplify matters and suggest Lambert is the main cause and then state he has had a budget and should have bought 3/4 top players shows a real naivety and alarms me that you really fail to grasp the position.
Firstly lambert had to get rid of a number of players and had to reduce wages, direction from Lerner I believe.
He could not even with the budget given buy top players and then pay the necessary wages.
Secondly we needed numbers so he had to buy cheap poor players on low wages.
One man and one man only is to blame for our demise and that man is LERNER.
Ask yourself one question if you and the other Lerner fans are correct and its all Lamberts fault, WHY then does Lerner still employee him?
Its because Lerner uses his managers to deflect attention from him. naïve fans focus their attention on an easy target the manager.
Something else for Lerner fans to consider, what is the common denominator since MON left?
Who employed AM? who pulled funds? Who has no interest? Who employs Lambert?
Who is thinking about extending Lamberts contract?
ONE MAN LERNER. LERNER OUT.
Ted Lambert took it on, that makes him as bad, he was incapable of the challenge. for gods sake.
TED…your spot on mate. Blame Lambert when he is given a fair crack of the whip…..just give him half of what MON had, then you can judge, until then:
Fuck off Lerner, the Villa is ours!
TJ…suspect you were a MON fan, spend loads and still fuck all trophies. All things considered, Lambert is doing a better job that MON ever did!
Langfordvilla honestly would you think Lambert even if he had millions could have done better, the man is inept of tactical positions, he’s as bad in management, you have seen his ploy over the last 9 home games. Sorry not a Villa man to me just a money hunting jock.
holtby split utd backline why oh why we didn’t go 4 him grrrrrrr
Just seen it looks a decent player
should av been ours if we had any say in it 🙁
The Lamberk FC sheep will be out in force, sucking up every word from their idol.
Any other chairman would have sent the useless mumbling twat packing months ago. But Lerner must like embarrassment and humiliation.
What i am trying to get at here is Decisions need to be made as to what is best for the club and it;s fans the more bad decisions that are made then the club will have no future only a past and the decisions Lambert as and is making it seems to be the later.We can all only speculate as to what his remit was when he took the job.I am sure it was not to take the club backwards that,s why it is imperative that the right decisions need to be made sooner rather than later.
Fulham beating utd
look through their team and look at the experience 2 ours ~ lambert was given a budget, the cloth was given 2 him cut and he made best of wot he has ~~~~~~~~ I admit he made mistakes but 2 say lambert is 100% 2 blame is total nonsense. he has cut the wages and brought in players that could av developed in2 premier stars. (still might)but martin o’neil was buying experience players on 50k above wages big difference
villa beat Cardiff which they will ~ then u will still av the same doubter moaning about possession or long balls
Fulham bring in Holtby, a top class player with experience in the CL, we bring in a fat lump in Holt who couldn’t get a game for Wigan.
Sums up what a pathetic joke our club is
You guys need to chill out a bit! So we are playing poor and the manager isn’t turning it around instantly. We are progressing slowly, but we are operating on a cheap squad. I think we will see what happens this summer, if we don’t spend then I will worry.
Fact is we aren’t doing that well and we are still mid table. Truth is most teams are struggling this season and there is a fine line between winning and loosing
Wipe, I’d suggest you forget about our league position and concentrate more on how many points we are above the drop zone, as that’s far more important, imo.
It’s currently 4, but could easily change in a very short time.
As for us progressing, how?
Our footy has got worse, on average, that’s beyond doubt.
And while I’m always looking for reasons to be optimistic, I just can’t see anything to be optimistic about.
What concerns me is that last season we had a good run-in, but only by beating the utter gash that was below us, as I’ve pointed out many times on here.
Now we can’t even do that!
I would suggest not to forget about league position!
I have seen our position and others dismissed time and time again based on the argument that its only x points from the bottom or its really tight.
There is a reason for that. the table is a representation of not just our results but the results of other teams.
So if we are playing rubbish and still are 10th and past the half way point .. Our rubbish is still better than the other teams rubbish.
I understand that its only a couple of results between us and the bottom in terms of points ..
but there is a reason after all these games why we are still 4 points away from 17th.
It seems illogical to me that you would worry about 5/6 teams all suddenly reversing their form for the last 6 months while ours worsened. Its actually probably extremely unlikely.
I am not saying that we can’t get relegated.
or that it isn’t a tight league.
or that i am happy to be where we are.
What i am saying is stop pretending that the league position is false and has no bearing on ours or other teams chances of getting relegated!
the question ppl should be asking is ~ WHY did villa go down cutting player wages, HAS Lerner given lambert free reins ~ I am sure given a choice of whether 2 gamble on unknowns or buying quality lambert would av done the latter. maybe at interviews 4 the vacant villa job and Martinez and Cardiff manager turned us down cos they were told about restrictions
TJ…pointless debate…nothing is going to change so YOU have ‘the decision’ to make. Either support the team and the club or sit in your chair and moan, moan and moan. Thats YOUR decision.
Fuck off Lerner, the Villa is OURS
LANGFORD You come out with the same thing time and time again.What i am trying to get at is what decisions your good self and many others would like to see made to turn the fortunes of the club round.I agree with you like to see the hole lot FUCK OFF we are a worse state now than ever we were under the ownership of dare i say it Sir Deadly.
Pot, Kettle Terry, the only person that come’s out with the same thing time and again is yourself, even OohAhh likes to vary his whinging from time to time.
The answer is blatantly obvious, we’d like a mega rich owner, simple, the only thing that will ever truly see us challenging for anything, without money we will never move forward.
Spot on guest dress it up anyway u like a mega rich owner is our only hope now
man I hate manutd but I am praying they score
spot on langfordvilla
I know what you mean Nath, but it’s an absolute pleasure taking the piss out of any Man U fans I know lately 🙂
u can continue as I will , 2 each bad result 4 us ~but we are capable of staying up without help VTID
Even worse sidwell and bent scored thanks for selling bent lamberk u useless twat
ah here .. ooh ahh
heskey scored for his australian team after he left us .. do you want him back too
Zat knight got a few as well for bolton
Well bent is a luxury player. Wouldn’t it be good to see him come off the bench with half hr left on sat instead of fat boy holt
Is lambert fucking untouchable?i don’t know many other clubs that would put up with our piss poor home performances aswell as record.survival thats all that lerner wants & it stands out a mile.i’ll be so glad if & when both of them fuck off.i stick us in the bottom 3 off poor teams in the pl.somethings got to give at management level thats for sure.im one well & truly fucked off fan.
the blokes a fucking genius. gets rid of any quality, buys in players loyal to him, has a plan that no one else can for the life on them understands and sells it to a billionaire with millions at stake and he buys it.
Fuuuking brilliant mate,
I am off to church more 2 1 utd lmao 🙂