Nicklas Helenius will stay at Villa Park amid quotes from his agents that claimed he could go out on loan. Following the arrival of Holt, Helenius has fallen down the pecking order yet again but Lambert claims that Helenius will learn a lot from the experienced Holt.
Lambert has said that Helenius has been doing well in training, barely ever misses the target but believes he isn’t strong enough for the Premier League. He hope that Helenius could learn from the likes of Holt and Benteke how to become a better target man.
When asked if Helenius could possibly go out on loan?
“Not at the minute, no.
“He’s not frustrated, that’s one thing Nicklas is not. If you watch Helenius finish in training he very rarely misses the target. He’s a young guy and he’s learning.
“Holty will bring experience. He’s streetwise. He’ll get you free-kicks where maybe a younger player might not be able to do that for you.
“When Nicklas starts to get the physical side of it then he’ll handle it, I’ve got no worries about that. Holt’s got the experience of it and he knows how to use his body.”
His team-mates believe in him though, Vlaar has also spoken out about the talents that young Helenius possess:
“When he scored his first competitive goal for the club everyone was really happy for him,” said Vlaar.
“Although he hasn’t had much match action, Nicklas has worked really hard to become a stronger, better footballer and that excellent strike will give him enormous confidence. – Ron Vlaar
Helenius is rated highly by fans but it appears as though Lambert doesn’t believe he is strong enough for the League. He may not be as strong as Benteke or Holt but that’s because he isn’t really a target man. I remember so people on this site saying that Helenius wouldn’t be a very bad number 10, at least temporarily. He has a good eye, good vision of the field and has the best technical ability from all out forwards. His goal against Sheffield United was taken well and I hope he’ll take more of his chances in the future. But it appears as though Helenius’s breakthrough season will come next season.
Lets get to the magic 40pts ASAP and then give the lad a runout. If he isnt given the chance we will never know!
Fuck off Lerner, Red Bull and any other twat who wants to change our name, ground or colours…fuck the lot of you, the Villa is OURS
Mate i think it’s going to be higher than 40pts for safety,im going by the way the bottom half of the table stands atm.i could be wrong though.
I’ve never drank 40 pts in one night 🙂
Bill…what was it then 39, then spilt the last one? Lol 🙂
I think you are a bit wrong. It’s shaping up that I could see 35 being enough in all honesty. Big clubs trampling the smaller ones so it’s basically going to be (who of the smaller clubs can beat the smaller clubs the most) kind of deal.
Dont argue with me lol…you only argue when your sober…have a double or two 🙂
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He’s not strong enough for what Lambert wants him as, but he’s more than strong enough to be in the team each game behind the striker. Lambert seems clueless on how to use him. He can play as an out and out striker, did it really well, but he can and has played behind the striker, and was assisting a lot, his passing and vision is class and he really doesn’t need to learn from the 3 strikers to make it as his own ability is enough to make it. Use him the way he wanted to be used when he first came “I wanna play with Benteke, not be his back up”.
Well said mate, I’m a tad disgusted with Lambert. He’s taken Helenius from Aalborg where he was becoming a prolific striker and winning the SuperLiga player of the year for his goalscoring ability and general all round play.
It should be Holt learning from Helenius on how to score/pass not the other way round….The “How to fall on ur backside after the slightest touch” technique is not what Helenius is about. He’s a footballer, not a brute…
Exactly, but I would rather him go on loan than to be forced to sit out the rest of the season watching players he’s just as good as with his technical ability. I think he’s best suited for a more technical game and that’s not Lambert’s game, so I can’t see him being a Villa player under Lambert as no one should want him to have to change his complete game to a lesser game.
Realy good news. Im sure given time and minutes on the pitch this lad will be very special for us. Im a big fan of this lads game.
What gets me is why buy him if you’re not going to play him?
Especially when we’re trying to save every ha’penny we can.
Crazy, imo.
On a different note not villa related but good to see utd out of cup tonight. What I dontunderstand is why chelski have sold mata to a rival. Bit like us selling Benteke to Wigan last year. I don’t get it.
They (Chelsea) have played man u twice so it won’t effect them but could work in their favour when man u play arsenal and the likes. Jose, he’s a wiley old Fox.
Good point BWS, and maybe getting Rooney in the summer!
Man U have failed signed Mata… The pens were no good!
True but he coukd be injured for those games and no guarantee utd will win anyway. What about the long term gives utd a chance to get champs league now and with mata they will attract much bigger players next season and be challenging Chelsea. The only thing I can think of is mourunho might go to utd or it might pave the way for Rooney to go there. Anyway they’ve done utd a massive favour IMO
United are hardly a rival… Mata’s not gonna fix United, he’ll help, but their midfield and defense is garbage.
He wont fix, but will help repair. Think of all the players City and Chelsea have got in the last year compared to Utd. Once and if United decide to get in the quality and when the injured players are back they will be a force again.
It proves my argument though that a manager is only as good as his players. If we signed messi and mata today we would shoot up the table. Not because lambert has become a genius but because we have two works class players on board. Moyes will get himself out the shit simply by throwing bug money at it a luxury he never had at Everton. This does not make him a better manager just a manager with better players.
The thing is though is that Moyes is going after players not interested. Vidal, Marchisio, Pogba, Hamsik, Alcantara, Fabregas… None of them are going to join United. Bayern aren’t going to sell Dante in January. He’s scouting all of these players hoping to sign them when he’s not going too. Moyes needs to learn who’s realistic and who isn’t. Mata’s realistic because Mourinho’s a strictly counter-attacking manager and Mata’s not going to play that style.
In the short term yes. But next summer they will have mata Rooney Rvp januzaj and a few other additions and will be challenging again. Utd will start throwing big money at it now and the signing if mata will attract other big names. Effectively Chelsea have thrown them a lifeline and they should get champs league now.
That’s if Moyes can get the best out of him. He can’t get the best out of Kagawa who’s incredibly talented and also an AM.
Guess so but he will be moyes signing which makes a difference plus utd will be able to attract better players once Matas signed. I’m amazed that they are selling him to utd though villa yes utd no
Mourinho aren’t going to find United a threat as he knows yes while Mata, a returning Rooney and RVP will be great, they don’t have a squad good enough on all fronts. Midfield is poor and defense is poor. Plus with Rooney playing as an AM, Mata’s most likely going out wide which will considerably limit his influence.
True but utd will address defence etc in summer by spending zillions a luxury we could never afford.
Oohah, it’s only good because Sunderland get a trip to Wembley (I love it when anyone apart from the usual get there).
But I’d have liked to see Citeh give them a right good shoeing in the final, myself.
It’s not that I dislike the club; it’s the fans that aren’t local that annoy me.
Agree mate though utd will have strengthened and probably got Rvp and Rooney back for final so they would have a decent chance v city. I’m just pissed if with the fact that if everything else fails we will just go out and buy a wc player.
Tank fly boss walk jam nitty gritty you’re listening to the boy from the big bad city
This is jam hot this jam hot
Yeah, good song Kevin.
This has to be the most boring window ever, especially knowing we’re going to do nothing of significance.
Mata to ManU. He’s one of my favourite players. Of course he’s just cost them more than our entire squad did but what a player he’d be in claret and blue! Sadly that will only happen when he’s 36 and we have a Spanish manager.
Up above the streets and houses rainbow climbing high
Everyone can see it smiling — over the sky
Paint the whole world with a rainbow
We’re not doing anything of any significance this window because we won’t go down and thre is no point in paying overinflated prices. As long as we finish 17th or higher it’s good enough.
Defour would be good though.
Aint we been linked to some winger from Chelsea on loan?
Whats all this Manure talk on here. Fuck off back to your own site!
I dont care about Man U
They dont care about me
All I care about is AVFC
Fuck off Lerner and Red Bull and any twat who wants to change our name, ground or colours…just fuck off, the Villa is OURS
That poem was going pretty well but lost its way at about the fuck off lerner bit.
Lol..just waiting for the cooking sherry to kick in 🙂
Its pretty clear that Hoolahan will be joining us soon. Just waiting for the petty boardroom squabbles to be resolved IMO
Money talks and all that Langford, the offers right and he’ll be down VP soon enough.
If Hutton goes we may see a Defour type player but I doubt any one would seriously want that pile of money draining shit at their club. So it will be Hoolahan and that’s it I reckon. Links to Kakuta on loan, quick player with bags of skill but hasn’t set the prem on fire maybe he isn’t suited to the league or maybe we could get the best out of him. Would just be another loan to help Chelsea though at the end of the day.
ITK…Hoolahan seen flat hunting in Alum Rock Road last night. Rumours suggest he would be happy if he could purchase a property with panaramic views of Saltley Gasworks and close to the inner circle 8 bus route with easy access to the world famous night life of Bordesley Green!
Villa and Norwich are both in a relegation battle. If i was Norwich i would string villa along re: Hoolahan up until the last minute on deadline day and then say NO. So don’t put all your eggs in one basket Mr Lambert.
This hoolahan thing is a joke! Norwich don’t wanna sell him so just move the Fuck on! Its not like he is a world class talent we are gonna miss out on Lambert ffs! Its obvious we are shopping in the bargain basement again wes is the best we can get for a million, fuckin ridiculous spend 5 mill and get a half decent player with more than 2 years of his career left! But of coarse he wants to come to villa cause he is 31 and we will give him a 5 year deal on 40k a week or some shit
We are apparently in talks with Barca to sign Dongou on loan – He’s meant to be class according to my barca fan mate. If we can pull that off……!!!!!
Lambert’s going 4-1-5 or 4-0-6.
Supposedly something like a young Eto’o. Be brilliant if we can pull that off and something about forming a partnership with them I guess is what I’ve read too.
He won’t be coming to us then
A young Eto coming to the Villa, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha aha ha aha aha ha aha – we are also the 12th biggest supported club in China, in a season of transition and my Mum is Marilyn Monroe …… Onwards and upwards, you couldn’t fault the lads, whoever was unplayable yawn yawn yawn yawn… don’t believe any of this shite until whoever is in a Villa shirt…… Our club couldn’t tell the truth if their premiership survival depended on it and 99% of these rumours come from them !!
Is your mum really Marilyn Munroe 🙂
Yep, the Villa told me so……………Before renewing my season ticket !
Yes, it’s clearly obvious it won’t happen. I mean a young player going out on loan to get experience at a big club in a big league… Never happens… OH WAIT.
Who wants another loan deal ffs.
Are we are about to change our home stadium name from Villa Park to Loans are us…… what the fuck happened to building for the future !
Lol good one. Sad but true
So NOW we’re looking at a loan player from outside the Country that won’t help build up for a Sky 4 team, and we’re complaining despite him being better than our current strikers, maybe bar Benteke. Fascinating. Didn’t realize however 3 loans made us Loans are us… When better teams, like Everton, have 3 loans. 😉
Andrew loans are a stop gap that go totally against everything the club has told us we are about…. it is the utter bullshit we have been given over the last few years about young and hungry/building for the future etc etc that gets a lot of us annoyed….I would welcome Jean-Marie Dongou with open arms, but don’t forget Faulkner will be doing the negotiating so don’t hold your breath.
You’re right, you’re right and I agree. However the 3 loan signings I don’t get the problems with. We needed a LB, and while I might be wrong, I still don’t think Bertrand’s all that great. We needed a replacement for Kozak and why sign a striker permanently when we have a few and Holt could prove decent. Dongou will not only improve us immensely, but seems Villa are hoping for some kind of partnership with Barcelona. If we got first dibs on their incredible academy on loan, even if we were a title challenging team, I’d take that in a heartbeat.
I’m not sure loan deals smack of short termism and small club mentality. What’s the point in having a loan player to knock of the rough edges for the big clubs. It means that these clubs get even bigger and better squads as they can keep them all happy by loaning them out. It’s all wrong especially loaning from the same division.