Hull 1 -3 Villa; Bruce needs to step it up

Let me say straight off, I’ve never seen first games as really meaning much.
They’re sort of in-between, as not really a friendly, but not really a proper game, where you can judge much at all.
You only have to look at some of the opening day results to see that.

But if I’m going to judge, I have to say that I thought Hull were awful and we weren’t much better.

Was I alone in thinking Jack was playing generally way to deep, to keep him out of any real trouble? Maybe.

I thought Steer had a pretty good game and I wouldn’t blame him for their goal. He did all you could ask in getting the ball away, only for our defenders to be half asleep.

But the MOTM for me was easily Hutton.
He’s the only one that I saw actually drive at the opposition and when you consider that’s not really his job, you have to wonder what’s going on?
Isn’t that exactly what Hourihane was bought to do?
Don’t get me wrong, he does get up there occasionally, but it’s nowhere near often enough.
And although I keep hearing he does the dirty work, I don’t see he does that enough either.
He’s far too anonymous for my liking, as much as the stats might say otherwise. Ok, he got a decent return, last season, but how good could that be if he was given his head?

Elmo produced the goods, but I wasn’t impressed overall.

Kodjia was greedy, yet again, but I’ve previously said I can live with that. But he looks out of sorts.
I seriously suspect he’s just not up to speed and it’ll come back.

And those players apart, I’m struggling to see anyone else as being anything more than total average.

Taylor? Oh dear.

Interestingly, Bruce is just saying that things are going to change, in that we need to go with a younger side.
Which is just as well, because I don’t see the new owners living with Bruce for long if things don’t change.

Hull, as poor as they were, made a couple of driving runs, straight down the middle, that had me thinking “why don’t we do that?”

And there lies Bruce’s problem for me.
His midfields are far too much designed to be an extension of the defence and they offer nothing in the middle.

Yes, Bruce brought on a couple of kids, but they need to be thrown in quicker, as much as I’m cautious.
It’s just that I see the current midfield going nowhere fast, especially against better sides.

Ok, we got three goals today, which is great.

But I just see us as frankly average and Bruce’s defensive attitude will not win him any favours from the owners.
Unless we’re top two, come October, Bruce will be gone.
It’s as simple as that for me.

As much as I think he’s been our best bet in giving us stability during some torrid times.

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  1. nath
    nath August 7, 2018 at 7:28 pm . Reply

    on fb they are saying joe bryan has picked villa over brough, if this is correct we are already stronger as this means left side will be not seen as easy for opponents

  2. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 August 7, 2018 at 7:36 pm . Reply

    Yeah just seen that Nath – apparently medical scheduled. I don’t know a lot about him but seems he’s a very decent player and we desperately need a quality left back (no disrespect to Hutton who did a sterling job last season).

    I was a little surprised that De Laet wasn’t even on the bench yesterday – do we think that means he is surplus to requirements? Disappointing if so because he’s a very decent fib, Bree has still to prove himself and Hutton is now 33 and OLL can’t go and watch the Villa ‘till he leaves LOL.

    1. nath
      nath August 7, 2018 at 7:57 pm . Reply

      de laet is more right side, i just think Elmohamady is in front of him as wing back in bruces eyes. i do think one rightback might be moving on, we have lots of cover there

    2. marvin
      marvin August 7, 2018 at 8:03 pm . Reply

      I could be mistaken but De Laet should be involved after his match(s) suspension from last season. I believe he flicked off a referee.

      1. nath
        nath August 7, 2018 at 8:07 pm . Reply

        you are correct marvin he got 2 game ban in Belgium league last season

        1. Hitchens 60
          Hitchens 60 August 7, 2018 at 8:20 pm . Reply

          Ah, thanks for clearing that up; he looked pretty good pre season and is very pacey – which is something we lack

  3. Holte66
    Holte66 August 7, 2018 at 8:21 pm . Reply

    I like the baggies away kit. Brings back memories of the three degrees.

  4. Holte66
    Holte66 August 7, 2018 at 8:24 pm . Reply

    Anyone think Grabban will score past Johnstone?

  5. badger123
    badger123 August 7, 2018 at 8:46 pm . Reply

    Alvaro Negredo, anyone?
    Getting on a bit at 32, but that’d be a sign of intent.

    1. Pat 57
      Pat 57 August 7, 2018 at 9:12 pm . Reply

      Negredo’s in Turkey isn’t he? Do you think he’d really be interested?

  6. Pat 57
    Pat 57 August 7, 2018 at 9:06 pm . Reply

    Forest 1-0 up and deservedly so. Guedioura looks a really good player.

    Baggies look well off the pace.

  7. Holte66
    Holte66 August 7, 2018 at 9:39 pm . Reply

    Without Grabbans goals we need a top scorer especially with Kodja looking like a one season wonder and Hogan injury prone. Hepburn Murphy is the same in that he will be injured a lot. Add to that Davis is injured but isn’t a great goal scorer, it’s looking grim in that area at the moment. If Bruce persists with one striker there is only Davis who is suited to this formation currently. None of the others can hold play up. Trouble is then our forward play is slow and predictable without a cutting edge. I think we all have come to the conclusion that Bruce rarely plays teams on the front foot. He is too scared of losing so sits his teams deep and looks to long balls or Grealish for inspiration. Come Saturday against lowly Wigan at home Bruce needs to show some courage and play a positive formation. Barring transfers i would go Steer Elmo Hutton Chester Elphick Green Bjarnasson Grealish Adomah Murphy and Kodja. Suggestions welcome.

  8. Pat 57
    Pat 57 August 7, 2018 at 9:45 pm . Reply

    Baggies nick a draw and could have even won it. While Forest played some nice stuff and made some chances they just couldn’t take them and personally I wouldn’t rate either defence.

    If the Baggies fans thought that they were going straight back up I think these first two games might have made them think again.

  9. Steve
    Steve August 7, 2018 at 11:57 pm . Reply

    Who do you think wants the move more
    Grealish or his agent

  10. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 August 8, 2018 at 7:04 am . Reply

    Reportedly £3.7m per year and why Bekistas want to sell him as they are cutting wage bill. Sound familiar?

  11. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 August 8, 2018 at 7:05 am . Reply

    Negredo that is

  12. nath
    nath August 8, 2018 at 7:24 am . Reply

    on the grealish show, look at the performance against hull. i think it was reserved at best. he never attempted any real driving runs. he only got smashed 6 times to a normal game of 26 lol he didn’t have a normal grealish game for villa. because he is already mind elsewhere. you guys are mad to think he doesn’t want to go. which player would not want to play for poccettino (forgive me in rush) spuds have a great team for a player like grealish to judge his skills. to play in premiership and europe at the very top. to catch the eye of southgate and play for your country. it would take grealish a while to forgive a missed chance like that. the dream has been sold to him and he wants it make no mistakes about that

  13. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 August 8, 2018 at 11:46 am . Reply

    Celtic match Villa’s offer for McGinn – which club he chooses will show his true ambition. Carry on having a kick about in Scottish Prem or take a real step forward and join Villa!

    Traore completed move to Wolves – that’s £3.5m for the Villa piggy bank and Joe Bryan set for medical

  14. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 August 8, 2018 at 12:29 pm . Reply

    News is that Sawiris has told Spuds they can’t have Grealish ‘at any money’. If true that’s a significant statement of intent.

  15. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson August 8, 2018 at 12:46 pm . Reply

    Just red that Hitch.
    Tottenham been told if you don’t meet the valuation he’s not for sale, and Bryant just signed for us.

  16. Pat 57
    Pat 57 August 8, 2018 at 12:56 pm . Reply

    It’s in the Guardian too –

    ‘Aston Villa’s executive chairman Nassef Sawiris has told Tottenham and any other potential suitors “he is not interested in their money”.’

    Wow! Have we finally got some decent owners at last? Here’s hoping.

  17. marvin
    marvin August 8, 2018 at 2:19 pm . Reply

    I love it – but Friday morning still cannot come quick enough.

  18. Holte66
    Holte66 August 8, 2018 at 2:48 pm . Reply

    Got to love Sawiris. At last our club has shown some balls.

  19. Pat 57
    Pat 57 August 8, 2018 at 2:59 pm . Reply

    More good news, this about McGinn –

    Lennon said: “He went down to Birmingham, I think he is having a medical there. A fee has been agreed. I think Celtic have matched the offer but I think Villa are in the driving position.”

    Originally thought it would be McGinn in for Jack but it now looks as if we’ll have both. Here’s hoping.

  20. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 August 8, 2018 at 3:04 pm . Reply

    It’s all kicking off with reports we are in for Success (what a great name) at Watford, Bran done deal, McGinn having medical, Maddison at Posh and

    According to one report Grealish is not happy ……..

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