It’s been pretty much confirmed that Roy Keane will not be going to the World Cup with ITV.
And if you read the following quote from an ITV spokesman, it’s also pretty obvious that he isn’t going to be a pundit at all in the near future, at least;
“Roy has been a tremendous part of our pundit team in recent years, but we fully understand his decision to concentrate wholly on his coaching,” “We wish him every success for the future.”
Hence, there’s every chance that he will be coming to the Villa.
So what do we think of this?
Well, to be honest I’m not impressed at the thought.
While I think Keane was an absolutely fantastic player (I even remember calling for the Villa to sign him before Man Utd got him), I don’t rate him at all as a good man manager, which is surely what is needed for an assistant?
He’s always given the impression that he relates to other people in the same way as he played his football; hard. But unlike as a player, without any finesse or skill.
In other words, a bit of a bully.
Which makes this seem a very strange addition to the staff, given that the previous assistants were sacked after accusations of bullying?
Unless of course, it’s so Lambert can play “good cop, bad cop?
Except I don’t really see that being the case.
And then there’s the timing of it all.
What will Keane want in wages? I don’t know, but I doubt he’ll come cheap.
So why would Randy Lerner be willing to shell out, when he could just get some lesser known (and hence cheaper) coach in? At least that would fit the pattern of what’s been going on lately.
No deal imminent for the clubs sale.AVFC still need to be competitive and need a number two.Just watched an interview with Tony Cascarino which in it he states Roy Keane is rebuilding his managerial career by being a number two with intentions of being number 1 in the future.As it stands we need a good,strong mentally minded person with a bit of grit. Keane brings passion,grit,determination,winning experience and know how to a team who needs it.I think the players can learn a lot from Roy Keane.UTV
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Fuck the managerial role – Sling him in the middle!!!!!
Scrapeing the barrel seems apt.gee fucking whizz
Wasn’t Culverhouse accused of bullying players !!!
Wasn’t it the intimidating and mocking of the youth team players?
Keane wouldn’t do that, sure he’d tell the first teamers when theyr’e shite and too right he should
When i first heard the rumour i wasn’t keen on the idea but the more i tink about it the more it looks a good idea, our midfield needs a load of work and keane can surely be some help if we can’t sign any new players in that position, Delph isn’t too dissimilar to keanes style as a midfielder for example. However this looks bad for a takeover! I think this basically confirms nothing will be changing before the season starts otherwise why bring in any new coaching staff? The simple answer is you wouldn’t. If the club was about to be sold nobody new would be hired so now im firmly in the “we’re screwed” camp.
I really like this idea for some mad reason. Hope it goes well for him. As it stands nothing can get any worse from back to front.
kerryvillian stole my thunder, if a take over was imminent, there would be no need for hiring a new assistant for only to be sacked, along with wots left of the management team. this crap is starting to annoy me. i can see no new players arriving and uncertainty about owners will plague us all this upcoming season.
lerner reduces his asking price is a interesting story ~ wot do we think of this ???????.
i think its bulshit i will only believe this when i see some proof, seems like lerner is all heart. but if this was the case, why only just announce it. i don’t buy hes only realized the asking price is well over the the going rate
worried villa fan 🙁
i think keane is there to be manager with lambert going to celtic or maybe helping his bum chum at ROI
Surprise, surprise – When I read this news last night I couldn’t believe it, but I have to agree with Jay Dee on this one. I don’t like the guy personally, but on paper he is everything we need right now to stay focused. With a club in midst of a sale it will be far to easy for the players to slack off and/or sleep walk into relegation next season. So, if the rumors are true and Lambert does appoint Keane it at least shows me Lambert doesn’t intent to let the club completely fall apart, which is great news.
Agreed Marvin, think he will really shake things up a bit and hopefully wake a few players up…. Just because he may appoint an assistant doesn’t mean to say the club will not get sold, but its obvious nothing is imminent which is a huge shame !!
how standards are falling keane was a disaster at sunderland and ipswich they couldnt wait to get shot now we will be getting him as a manager via the back door ffs. remember when he spent £10m for craig gordon worse than mon ffs
I’m not thrilled by this news, but name one player in our current squad who wouldn’t do what he says though… Jump. How high? Who knows, maybe his presence on the training grounds might just be enough.
Craig Gordon, is he still playing?! Well lucky for us Lambert doesn’t even have 10m for Keane to waste, or influence him to waste.
I understand Oohah, but he may give em a kick up the arse they need…. Just trying to stay a little more positive as I know we are in the deep shite
He’d give them a kick up the arse, but as per usual, he’d take it far too far, like he did especially at Ipswich. He’s far too big of a hard ass that’s not going to do well at Villa and the fragile nature of the squad. Yelling and screaming of that nature is going to completely fail. But then Lambert’s constant pandering to the team so they listen to him is the same way. Got to have a balance, neither of them do.
Nothing to do with a kick up the arse they simply arnt good enough no matter how hard they try.
lets stick to the facts oohaah, sunderland couldn’t wait to get rid of him so he resigned and then chairmen pleaded with him to stay …
nope .. 100% wrong there.
ipswich was total mediocre, judge away on that front,
He jumped before he was pushed as didn’t want sacking on cv. Clubs scared to sack him because of his name so made out they wanted him when they didn’t. And if as you say he resigned then it proves he can’t hack it
Cascarino was on Sky Sports saying Roy Keane was reinventing his managerial career and wanted to start as a No2 eventually moving up to a manager again
so basically he wants to practice with us a stepping stone fuck that. dont want him complete tosser
Or he’s been told he could be Villa’s future manager if a new owner feels he’s done well enough?
exactly he is not giving up itv to work under the clown we already have. he is our new manager only a matter of time. Bet Fergie gave lerner a reference ffs. Fergie picking our manager yet again. bye bye villa been nice supporting you but no ,ore iv had enough club is a joke
Lol… You love to irritate yourself by making up these side stories that don’t exist.
Okay okay okay okay okay… Now I just read that Hull City are close to signing Bertrand for 5m. Now I don’t want him back, but did he not claim he wanted to join one of the bigger clubs to continue growing?
ha ha good fuckin riddance rather them than us complete shite
No no, we’re just not ambitious, can’t afford his wages according to some people who must think he was actually good. 5m, which is less than Bennett and Luna cost together who are each as good as he is, on the same wages together Bertrand will be on at Hull. WE HAVE NO AMBITION TO SIGN HIM UNLIKE HULL CAUSE WE CAN’T “AFFORD” HIS WAGES…
Oh man… Love this stuff.
Fuck me if Bertrand means ambition then I’m glad we don’t have any
Good to see my sarcasm didn’t work.
But I fully agree. A dozen or so LB’s we could sign better than him.
In fact, let me name some.
Davies, Pieters, Tabanou, Willems, Gabriel Silva (I’d recommend him to anyone personally), Taylor, Murru, Gunter, Telles, Creswell, Planas, Caldirola… And yes I named them simply because I had/have a feeling I’d be asked too. 😉
Bertrand flattered to deceive. Not interested especially for that money
Fully agree, just flabbergasted by his comment and then he’s set to join fucking Hull.
LERNER slashing the price by 50mil??????? Transfer funds zero ?????? The sign of a man desperate to get out.
Who says Lambert has no money
Who says he does?????
Exactly we don’t know do we
So Lerner is going to be even more out of pocket????? That’s my question
no giddy your right. lerner isn’t gonna spend another penny,not even to safe guard our immediate future and safe guard his investment, kills me 2 see little hull tigers invest in players, for the best interest for this great club. things need to happen yesterday. lerner has short changed us over the last two years only to stop imputing completely,this maybe damning with fatal repercussions
LERNER is now disinterested in the club so why now spend money???
While I can understand the view that Keane might be just what we need to kick arses and get players out of any complacency etc, we need to look at the reality of things too.
While we don’t know anything as fact, it seems widely known that Keane went way too far in his approach, especially at Ipswich.
Even their CEO or whatever hinted at it.
And Keane was quite simply hated by some of the players.
That’s not a good thing and hence I actually agree with Oohah for once.
I don’t want the bloke anywhere near us, as imo he’s a egotistical twat.
And we already have one of those, don’t we?
As for Bertrand, we all know what that’s about.
The mighty Hull have more ambition and will pay better wages than us, simple as.
That’s what we’re down to 🙁
Badger I agree I don’t think going to a bigger club is the issue it’s who’s prepared to pay the larger pay packet yet another example of a greedy bastard footy player.
That’s not a good thing and hence I actually agree with Oohah for once.
fuck me are you feeling ok badger or have the pills kicked in 🙂
Shame on Hull for lazy scouting and using no imagination and effort for signing Bertrand. They took him from Chelsea and it simply glorifies his name, sorry but Bertrand really wasn’t anything special and I see this as positive for villa. So that’s that out the way.
For me Roy Keane is an absolute no way! Aragont, big headed, rude and I only anticipate disaster, unrest, confrontation and then the inevitable loss of the dressing room. No no no and no. More over I couldn’t think of anyone worse to lift and nurture a young squad. I actually think someone like Owen Doyle as a number 2.
And last we all know when we put a house or car or whatever up for sale we make it a little higher than what we want for it. If this rumour is true I can only imagine it to but a rehearsal from Lerner and his gang. I do believe there is interest from 2 or 3 parties and I’m confident a take over will be complete in time for the start of new season.
Villa have to be kept competitive,attractive and in the premier league to be a good purchase that’s why Lerner will spend
We dun can’t compete with da major powers dat be Hull who offer 40-50k to da Bertrand who so good for Villa and dey clearly ambitious and we not cause like we can’t afford dat cause 5m + higher wages was what he was worth…Bertrand = amazing and we can’t handle such talent.
Did I do that right?
Do what right Andrew?
Try to act negative… I was trying, it was quite difficult to type like that but I thought I nailed it perfectly.
You fit right in lol
Nice! All I ask for.
Yes perfect Asian language.
God knows what that spelling was about Andrew, but I’ll just ignore it.
It doesn’t matter if you think Bertrand was any good or not.
In fact, if we were in the market to buy someone who’s actually BETTER, I’d probably agree with you.
But we won’t be.
The sad fact is, that even though you think he was not that good, he’s a bloody damn site better than any of the crap that Lambert bought at LB.
The point is when Hull can outdo us, we should know something is wrong.
And why if we don’t get some decent investment soon, we’ll be amongst the favourites to go down.
That’s not being negative; it’s just blatantly obvious.
I don’t really see what we have to be positive about, sadly.
I thought I’d try a different twist.
It doesn’t prove Hull can out do us though, and that’s my point. Villa never put in a bid for Bertrand, who isn’t better than what we have. I don’t find anything wrong with him going to Hull, in fact I’d much prefer he go there, then he come back to Villa for 5m + 50-60k wages, as he’s not a step up from what we have.
With you on that. He was nothing special and was sometimes slow to get back when caught upfield. If we have £5M to spend there must be better value out there.
At least you got my point. I feel like some people will whine just about anything nowadays. “Oh no, we didn’t get or even try to sign Bertrand, Hull are clearly more ambitious and can offer higher wages…”
It’s like… No, no, no no no no no. We can get better, will we? Doubt it, it’s Lambert. But we have just as good already so it’s not a loss.