So it appears the media have been given the wink to say that Lambert stays ‘until the club is sold”.
Well what else did you expect ?
Notice the form of the words, ‘until the club is sold’ … that is very short term isn’t it, not even an indication he will be here for pre season.
Did you really think that Lerner would spend his money on sacking him ?
Did you really expect Lambert to walk with no compensation ?
This situation is in many ways comparable to 2006 but no chance that Lerner is stupid enough to sack Lambert now. This does not mean that the club will not be sold, in fact quite the opposite. At no point the club are saying any deal is a way off, so just chill and relax. If by the middle of June we are not taken over then agreed,
PANIC
I have to mention here the forum names as TBAR. If you know of them they are just being total fools. In the form incarnation I posted ITK but always made clear it was and never to presume it would happen. Over on that forum they are saying it is all gospel and dragged a lot of sensible people into their web.
If you want a laugh go on there now ….
Fools.
Lambert is an employee of AVFC. He isn’t going to walk and avoid his big pay off and Lerner won’t sack him. I’m afraid we are stuck with Lambert until the club is sold.
The key thing here is an offer of a new contract was being discussed a few months ago that doesn’t seem to be the case now. He has 12 months left.
Lerner must be on the verge of selling else we will have a demoralised club , with no leadership / motivation heading for the championship. Which financially for Lerner would be a catastrophy.
He is not really selling Steve it’s all a con so he can maintain the status quo. He can then drag this in for years to come
Possibly but if you play russian roullette you eventually get shot. He won’t be maintaining the status quo if we are relegated.
The club at the moment is going nowhere. ST sales will be well down (i think a lot of fans are waiting to see how this turns out before renewing). The players will no Lambert is on his last legs and become unmotivated, no players of quality will join the club. It all spells doom hence that is why i think we are being sold.
Hope your right Steve but all Lerner has do is sign someone like a lescott and the fans will flock back and a signing like that would prob keep us up. Though he does make lots of mistakes like all our centre halfs!!
come on mate, that is not happening. I would agree if a sale not done by the middle of June you are more likely to be right. However I stay firmly convinced by the 1st of June it will be much clearer who will own us.
hope so Ian but im not convinced. surely lamberk should be sacked and sid in charge until new owner. If we dont find an owner by ko then lerner is happy to keep lambert which says it all. I still think we will be having this discussion in a years time
It’s going to be one hell of a long summer phewwwwwwww.
Yep and we will be starting it with exactly the same shite regime. Lerner is a tosser leaving that muppet in charge Ffs. We will prob get one or 2 marquee signings to appease the fans but too little too late. Hope we go down we deserve to
Ooha I bet that tosser who used to come on here using fans usernames is probably the wanker who runs that TBAR SITE.
Probably we seem to have got rid of him for now
I had my account deleted from TBAR for not blowing smoke up the arses of the ‘ITK’s and stating that the site only came out with stuff to increase traffic.
Such a shame that’s like lemmings ppl flock to that forum.
why am i not surprised eh ? when the ‘admin’ refuses to name himself unlike any of the other forums, then that is where you do not take them seriously.
true robbo
posters on this site dont know how lucky they are Donnie you can say what you like whether you agree with me or badger or not.
Come on Ooaah, yr one of the worst for deleting posts!!! Lol!
Never bum bum. I very rarely edit or delete posts. I only do it if someone is being offensive ie racist etc or edit out the C Word. Me and Badger do not delete posts just because posters don’t agree with us otherwise I’d be deleting everyone’s post lol
Some people…..You want Lerner out, so he’s selling yet OOHAH still calls him a tosser……
Do you really think he was going to spend any money axeing Lambert and find a successor???
Do you really think anybody would take the Villa job from Lambert, without knowing who their future bosses are and what their plans might be?
True that’s if he is really selling. This will drag on forever helenius
sad day lads grew up a few miles from Villa Park and watched them in he 70s and 80s moved to Ireland in he mid 80s and used to travel over a few times every year to watch us have to say next season is the first season i will not be travelling to watch that pile of shite and wont be going over till the muppets have left the club
UTV
In answer to the questions you posed. No I did not expect Lerner to sack Lambert. No I did not expect Lambert to walk. I also don’t expect the club to be sold by June 1, or anytime soon.
The problem with the statement “until the club is sold” is that is open ended. If it was imminent I don’t think there would be any need for any statement about Lambert. I expect he would be one of the first casualties.
Like everyone else I was hoping for a positive outcome to this. It will happen at some point, but not anywhere soon enough for most I suspect. Lerner needs to invest a bit simply to protect his asset, but will he? If we are about to be sold there will be no transfer activity. If we aren’t, there still might not be any!
Until the club is sold!! Could take years
NOW THIS IS WERID.
We have the following from Lambert
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3842756,00.html
nothing that staggering in there is it ….
However Plane spotter extraordinaire TheTrees on VT has said that two planes are at BHX
one belong to a major NYC lawyer firm who has done sports takeovers
and another belonging to a Buffalo Billionnaire – Robert Rich.
Even if true and I doubt it rich is only worth the same as Lerner give or take nowhere near enough for us
MORE TRIPE iAN DONT KNOW WHY YOU EVEN READ THAT SHITE
what shit ? From TheTrees ?? be serious he is saying the truth of who is at BHX today it is up to work out if there is a connection to Villa.
For example Robert Rich contributes to the same hospital – Cleveland Clinic as the Lerner family does,
TheTrees is a good source by all accounts but it is only one piece of the puzzle. After OSG we shouldn’t get to carried away until someone else can verify what is going on outside of BHX.
no one is, we are just speculating aren’t we and trying to find links.
Rob Rich will 100% know the Lerner family and the only thing I have ever been told is that Lerner will be friends with the new owner.
Make of that what you will …. Lerner will not sell us out IMHO to someone who does not trust/like.
Completely agree about Lerner not selling us out. Obviously his tenure has reached it’s end, but no way will be just sell us off to someone who he either doesn’t trust and/or know something about football.
ok Ian sorry was a bit harsh there just totally pissed off with all the shit at villa hope something good comes out of it
I truly hope this Robby Rich is bullshit, the fella’s worth about the same as Lerner and ok that’s mega mega wealthy but in football terms it’s small change ($1.8b small change? I can’t believe I’m saying that) but in the EPL scale of things it is.
Who’s the trees Ian
guy on VT who works at BHX. He gets to know all the plane movements ad passes on those of interest. !00% bona fide info it is up to us to interpret it.
Fair enough thanks Ian
Whatever, Lambert is here until at least Christmas if not next summer. With only a year left on his contract even a new owner would consider keeping the guy for the short-term and build next summer. At the very least he has proven he can keep a terrible team up. I just hope Lambert has been given some funds to buy at least 1-2 big names (5M – 8M range). Sadly I’m just a little worried because it’s a WC summer and prices, even for crap players, will be at a premium. The next tv money won’t help prices either, so… yeah, the wait continues.
I’m like many others that want shut of PL, the dross that we had to put up with last season was something no prem league club should ‘play’?
But I still believe that he would of been a good for Villa if he hadn’t of come in when he did.
If the take over had of happened 2 years ago & the new owner had of brought in PL, I firmly believe that we would be a top 6 side but as it stands, its all ifs and buts…
How is the statement ‘until the club is sold’ very short term ?
It could be any length of time, in fact, by my reckoning, until the club is sold.
Most plausible sources in the media suggest that there are currently no interested buyers in advanced negotiations, so all this clap trap that you desperately try to scrape together to make fit your fanciful notions is just that.
Why couldn’t you have just done the honourable thing and stayed away after telling us all that OGS was definitely the new manager. Didn’t everything point to that ?
I read on the official site that some bloke who is mates with Tom Hanks is going to be at the matches in Texas. What do the tea leaves at the bottom of your mug suggest that means ?
Spot on Vaze, more innuendo nothing to back things up, no money out of my pocket until I see things will change for the better of Aston Villa FC. We can make it happen if we just wait for Villa to understand us fans have had enough.
No money from me either bill
Vaze…. That was the greatest post ive ever seen on here!!! I salute you sir. As for whos buying us…. Who cares its going to either work out well for us or it will end up going badly, either way no amount of idle chat is going to change things we all have our preferred new owners and those that we dont want. People say they dont want red bull as we would be re-branded. Would anybody care if we became league champions?? Larry ellison could come in and really fuck things up hes 4th richest man in the world abd 250mil is nothing to him we would either be his pride and joy or just an expensive toy. And as for lambert…. I never wanted him but hes contracted for another year and has given RL no reason to sack hik his task was to keep villa on the league whilst reducing the wage bill
Where exactly does it say “until the club is sold”?
None of the news reports I’ve looked at, nor the statement on the official site, seem to include those exact words.
It’s just common sense that neither Lambert nor anyone else is going to announce plans for the long-term when any new owner could change things overnight, but all the reports so far just take that for-granted. Nowhere have I found somebody needing to add that ‘until the club is sold’ bit.
I’ve seen nothing new in print today that suggests a sale is about to happen – in fact several [Express & Star, Mirror to name just two] repeat that no firm buyer is in place.
The club is in limbo, all that we’ve learned today is that on a day-to-day basis it just carries on as it has for the last few weeks.
As for those who spent last week and then the the weekend posting in various forums that Lambert had been fired already -just shows what a load of donkey-droppings the supposed “ITK’s” produce!
TBAR are making people register now to see their forum the idiots. !!
The more I look at this Robert Rich fella the more I would like him as an owner if that was too happen .
And to above he is worth double that of Randy but probably we would be funded from his company as per his other sporting interests,
How much is his company worth. We need someone with £10b minimum. Tbar have always got people to register I think.
Why? Do you really expect someone worth £10b to spend more than someone say worth £3-4b?
Because 3-4b US dollars not pounds. Also someone with more money in theory will have more to spend. Obvious really
They’ll have more to spend, doesn’t mean they will. Unlikely they will.
There is no buyer I bought into some of the bullshit floating about more fool me.
Don’t think there is one either
And yet look how fast United have moved to appoint their manager, even Norwich look set to appoint a new manager this week. Why is it we always seem to be much slower at getting things done? The worrying thing from Lambert’s comments was the line “as far as I know nothing is imminent regarding ownership of the club”.
The new manager is still stuck with fergies golden boy though
They have one thing we don’t the stability of a chairman planning for next season we’ve got diddly mate.
One last kick in the bollocks from Lerner
What happened to this dross about a conference at 2.30 today like some on here spouted yesterday. Don’t make me 😀
yes wot did happen to this conference, i thought some1 said it was good hearsay, well i already feared this news, selling the club may take sometime, look at everton they av been for sale for a good while,
i hope we get behind the team and management its hardly their fault, a packed out VP will attract a better new owner than a half empty booing VP, lerner has to back lambert with proper wages for a few decent players,
it is wot it is, we need 2 live with it and hope glory days return, who knows a buyer maybe just around the corner,
so wot have we learned ?? never listen to hearsay
We’ve had a packed out non booing VP all season makes fuck all difference. A new owner will know that if they take over and show ambition the fans will flock back anyway
like not being sold, not having a sugar daddy to splash the cash, fighting relegation for the last 4 years or five years, no real money to sign new players or change the squad much, you can forgive a little defeatism a little whinging. but its our club and its in our best interest to back the club , ps not like ur a moaner hey oohah, u just happen to be the biggest moaner ever to watch the villa. we can throw the toys out the pram and rip off the teddies head or back the team and make playing for villa easier
I’d rather throw my teddies out the pram than watch a team managed by that clown and I’m not the only one to say that on this site so go pick on someone else!!
well that is ur choice, i hope you enjoy being quiet in the corner and don’t ruin it for others lmao
I won’t be there to ruin it thankfully. My money will be much better spent then watching that crap. Most of my mates (bar one) are not renewing now they know lambert is staying and already made plans for money they’ve saved on season tickets like holidays etc.
Nath you’ve got to be a bit pissed off mate, it’s only natural. Personally you can’t beat a good whinge.
that ‘s just it, blame the wrong person, love the attitude u av, had lerner sacked him paid him off i am sure another top manager would av loved to replace him without money or decent squad and for duration of week to 3 years anyones guess, you should get urself on the board they are looking for muppets
I thought you were the board as you are singing off their hymn sheet!!
you know giddy i am, but who knows how long this limbo will last, getting on lamberts back will achieve fuck all, lerner mentions we’re up for sale and a few ppl think all changes will happen 2day or tomorrow ~ doesn’t happen like that, lambert has 12 months then i bet he would love to walk away, managing villa is no joy for him, his career has halted at villa, if lerner doesn’t BACK lambert this squad will be heading back to the dogfight of relegation again
no no no oohah iam not on the board but i know wots possible and wots not. sacking a manger knowing you can’t replace him is not a good business decision,also when ur cutting costs as well, nobody really thought lerner would sack lambert iam sure, if they did they need a reality check, the only way lambert was to leave, was if he walk away because of the clubs lack of ambitions, you seriously think he wants to flirt with relegation aving no wage budgets to compete with championship sides,
anyways iam of out ltrs
We flirt with relegation not because of the players but because he can’t manage properly. He has given us the most unwanted records in our history. Sack lambert and let Sid manage until the so called new owners arrive. He can’t do any worse and he’s cheap
Fair comment but I’m impatient possibly a panicer. I know whilst Lerner is at the helm Lamberts here it would only make financial sense to Randy.I’m looking beyond that possibly I shouldn’t.
only way the club we love, avoid another uphill season long battle to survive, is if we all stick together and a new owner is found sooner rather than later, lerner will need 2 act this summer to protect his investment, because if he feels the current squad has the quality to survive another close one, i think its a mistake, losing benteke towards end of last almost cost us dear, another season with a paper thin squad,out of form strikers lack of creativity in midfield is a really really big risk
Benteke would of been of this summer anyway if he was fit
ur correct and thats one godsend because with him in the team, we might make survive this season, lerner needs to dig into his pockets, thats wot annoying me mostly
2.30 in the morning lol
I have it on good authority that the Queen buying Villa, due to the fact that her grandsons bad language not been to good of late with all the bullshit being put out, Well we have had some cock and bull lately have we not, club been sold, two american buyers, two managers have walked away from their club and Villa is linked, has anyone else got news for me to smile about, because I’m so pissed off with shit guessing.
I get the feeling LamBUTT has a transfer kitty
Carn’t Lerner just add to the bill???????
This years Forbes says his net worth is $3b
Peanuts for a football club
Unfortunately chicken feed in elite footballing terms. Very sad indeed millionaires are paupers now.
Fans make it out like these people worth at least 10b are going to spend a ton of money on transfers/the club. They’re not gonna put any more in it than someone worth 3b.
Why wouldn’t they. The sheiks did. And don’t give me the ffp bollox man city etc will still buy who they want fine or no fine
Eh, because a few did, doesn’t mean they all will… again. Someone worth 5b can come in and give a manager 100m… As could someone worth 50b.
But someone with more money is statistically more likely. Don’t forget abromovich
@patmurphybbc
According to Pat Murphy Randy Lerner is no longer looking to sell the club to a ‘ custodian ‘ , he is now willing to sell to anyone.
As suspected – he’s desperate to get out.
This could be more of a ‘fire sale’ than a carefully-agreed handover. Just hope we don’t end up like Blues…
Sounds like a “We had a deal, fell through, now that I’ve admitted the club’s for sale, I need out” kind of info.
I don’t care we couldn’t be any worse of. You can’t blame Lerner for selling to highest bidder I would tbf
So true, so so true. You’re asked to leave, put the club up for sale, why not try to get the most out of it?
Red bull it is then. I don’t give a toss who he sells to as long as it’s not a vincent tan type
thats the one thing that has been playing on my mind oohah this bollox about Randy cares for the the club is tripe we could now be up shit creek big time Randy sells to the next highest bidder cus at this stage he just wants out. Hence we end up been bought by as you say another blues clone and our club is stripped of its assets and we are left fooked and please dont all start the tripe about Randy will not let that happen and he will sell to someone who cares BULLSHIT
a lot have having cake and eating it though,
Lerner had the custodian and infrastructure approach but not the cash or the football acumen …
You want rid, .. you can’t make any claim or demands on the new owner, nor could you of the last one really, but he did listen at times.
If its to the highest bidder, we could vincent tan times 10 – i don’t mean in monetary terms.
i mean in terms of disaster
lol the irony there is that we may get a new owner that has no intention of listening to the fans who got the chance to buy villa because the last owner did listen to fans and sold!
Honestly at this point if say someone with the same money as ‘Lerner came along but with the same respect for the heritage and history of villa, and tries to put some decent football know how behind the scenes, I would trade that for a Tan or yeung or fernandes with 10 times the wealth ..
i don’t want 5 years of attempted glory traded for 20 years in the wilderness or financial ruin.
“As long as I’m here, I would never sell Christian Benteke,” said Paul Lambert in an interview with SkySports. He went on to say that there are a few players like Benteke, “a core of good players,” who are an absolute necessity to keep around. One can only presume that players such as Jores Okore, Fabian Delph, and Brad Guzan are included in that group.
Absolute rubbish of Benteke was of the would go after World Cup no doubt about it
I do wonder how many players are part of a “core of good players” that we have. Vlaar, Okore, Delph, Guzan, Benteke… I’d add Kozak, Westwood (maybe).
i think u would have 2 expect bacuna and tonev to improve for the last season experience weimann gabby will be vital, nxt year more players will be integrated from our youth set up and i bet 3 loaned experienced players
Ah, forgot Bacuna and Weimann. The latter will definitely be far more happy that Lambert’s staying.
If we get 3 loanees in, I don’t care that they’re experienced, I just want them far better than Holt. Hell, ask Barcelona for 3 kids, sure Enrique wouldn’t mind seeing 3 incredibly talented kids (too bad Everton’s loanee’s going back :p). I can see some experience coming in though.
More bullshit to sell season tickets lol http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/10842231/Aston-Villa-manager-Paul-Lambert-set-to-make-move-for-Manchester-City-defender-Joleon-Lescott.html
your rite everton play the loan market well, they took a young kid for barca the chelsea striker if we bolster midfield with loans and flare, we av a fighting chance, i hope they can shift hutton and bent that would free up more funds well you would hope so
Yeah, because fans are going to jump for joy that Villa are going to be ambitious and sign bloody fucking Lescott… Oohah, get real will you? If they’re going to make up garbage to sell season tickets, it’s not going to be about bloody fucking players like Lescott. My word.
Nath, I agree. I do see us moving for a fair few loans. Hopefully the right ones, and the best loanees tend to be the flare, attack minded ones. No more Bertrand’s and Holt’s, can do so much better than them.
10m for Holtby too… If that’s true, Spurs are stuck with him. Worth maybe half that to teams.
Lescott is a big experienced name and he’s a villa fan allegedly. Not a great fan of his as he is error prone like vlaar and Dunne but he is a leader and be good for dressing room. Natural captain.
But he’s not a player to sell season tickets. Of course he has a mistake in him, and so did Vlaar, but when you’re under attack for 80 minutes every game, Vlaar can’t help but either 1. be the best defender in the world to keep a clean sheet or 2. make 1 mistake a game. Every defender has a mistake in them, even the likes of Benatia, Subotic Hummels and Silva, probably the 4 best CB’s as of right now. However will he start over Okore? I dunno. And he’d want 50-55k wages which I can see Villa paying, but for a bench player? Again arguable.
According to reports he is on circa 90k at city. Even kompany has made some howlers this season. Just that vlaar makes more than most and as for Bennett !!
He’ll drop his wages no doubt.
Vlaar makes a lot of errors because 1. Our midfield is terrible. 2. He has to defend for 80 minutes… What the hell do you expect? Perfection? If he was that good, we wouldn’t have him, he’d have been at a club like Bayern already. He’ll make mistakes each and every game when you defend as much as our club does with the worst midfield in the league. Probably not far off on the worst fullbacks in Lowton and Bertrand/Bennett/Luna either.