Liverpool – Villa; Let the real games commence.

So, a recap.
We’ve done very nicely, ta, over our first few games, with a loss at Newcastle, which is no disgrace to say the least and a couple of wins against Everton and Burnley.

So basically, about where we ought to be if we’re being honest.

Now the real tests begin and we face a team, that while currently in decline to my mind, is still a formidable opponent. Well, it’s just Pool away, isn’t it?
They’re never an easy game.

The thing is though, they are weakened when compared to the last decade or even more.
They have a Saudi club wanting to buy Mo Salad, who has basically announced by his silence that he wants to leave for their $2million a week and £150 million offer, which the club have knocked back. Expect them to come back with a £200 million offer and it just confirms that the game is just stupid.
He’s 31, ffs!

Whatever, I don’t see how Pool can account for this and I’ve heard of no replacement in place.
In fact, I personally think Pool are somewhat shellshocked.
I like Klopp, but see his days numbered at Liverpool.

Not that this affects our game tomorrow.
Except it does. This sort of event can totally unsettle everything and I’m hoping that’s happened here.

Squad news and nothing has changed for us, except Martinez will probably be straight back in after his calf twinge.

As for Liverpool, Van Diyk is suspended after his sending off last week and hopefully the inquiry into his abusing the ref will see another couple of games out too.
Curtis Jones is back is training, but Ibrahima Konate and Thiago Alcantara aren’t ready.

Useless fact;

Villa are winless in their last five league visits to Anfield (D1, L4), although only Manchester United and Chelsea have won more Premier League away games against Liverpool than Villa have.

I’m expecting a really good, all out, tactical game here.
Both teams can play at pace, while both defences, if I’m keeping my neutral head on, are prone to errors.

We are going to go for this, because Emery doesn’t do “taking a point”, which is yet another reason why I like him so much.

Let’s not forget;
“The aim of the game is to score more goals than the opponent”

I’m going for a 2-1 result.
The trouble is, I honestly don’t know who’s going to get it and can’t call it.

UTV, while hoping it’s us!

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  1. Gerry
    Gerry September 7, 2023 at 3:33 pm . Reply

    Injured he is not sellable. Lets get another club to pay his wages and get him fit. Seems an amazing deal.

    1. Hitchens60
      Hitchens60 September 7, 2023 at 5:34 pm . Reply

      Maybe, but there’s been a lot of noise without any concrete links.

      If it’s just about money and it goes ahead then it’s a good deal particularly if it allows us to strengthen in January.

      I’m concerned that with Buendia / Mings out and Young having left we’ve lost the core of our more aggressive, ‘in your face’ type player which are necessary when playing the better teams in the league.

  2. Holte
    Holte September 7, 2023 at 7:21 pm . Reply

    Also Hitch the 3 players you mentioned are all voices on the pitch which haven’t been replaced. It’s up to the new faces to step up as leaders.

  3. Sidforever
    Sidforever September 8, 2023 at 8:58 pm . Reply

    No Villa this weekend and I don’t care about Southgate’s match.

    Thought I’d have a bit of fun with Villa finances. The caveat is lies lies damn lies and statistics. The figures used below are either reported data or best estimate on prior data.

    Player wage: * best guess on known data
    Incoming:

    Torres: £150,000*
    Lenglet: £145,000
    Tilesman: £150,000
    Zaniola: £76,000
    Diaby: £125,000*

    Total: £646,000

    Outgoings:
    Wesley: £35,000
    Davis: £45,000
    Jaydence: £5,000*
    Archer: £20,000
    Sansom: £45,000
    Nakamba: £30,000
    Coutinho: £125,000
    Ramsey: £5,000*
    Young: £50,000

    Total: £355,000

    Increase: £ 291,000

    Per year: £15,132,000

    However, last year’s 7th finish increased premiership income:

    Premier Income:2022/23: £142.1m
    Premier Income: 2012/22:
    £122m

    Increase £20.1m

    In theory this income increase covers salary increases.

    FFP: Allows £105m loss over 3 years.
    2019/20: £(32.1)m
    2020/21: £(274.9)m covid
    2022/22: £.4m
    Fair to say that 20/21 cannot be used as a yard stick to have significant impact on FFP. Therefore, the other 2 years are not in danger of going over FFP, so should be some wriggle room.

    Player sales and purchases:

    Sales:
    Archer £18.5
    Ramsey £14
    Davis: £2m
    Nakamba: £3
    Jaydence: £5m

    Total: £42.5
    Stripping out Nakamba who was purchased and his sale price equalling his amortisation value, profit on sale’s equals £39.5m

    Purchases:
    Diaby: £51m over 5 years = £10m per year
    Torres: £35 over 5 years = £7m per year
    Tilesman: Free – signing on fee unknown
    Zaniola: £4.25 loan fee
    Lenglet: £4.25 loan fee (similar to Spurs deal year before)

    Total:£94.5m
    Total amortisation cost £25,5m + Tielemans signing in fee.

    Transfer profit £14m less Tielemans signing on fee.

    Europa Conference League
    For the 2022–23 season, group stage participation in the Europa Conference League is awarded a base fee of €2,940,000. A victory in the group pays €500,000 and a draw €166,000.

    Champions: €8.6 million, Runner-ups: €4.6 million, Semi Finalists €2.8 million (each team), Quarter Finalists €1.8 million (each team), Round of 16, €1.2 million (each team), Round of 32, €500,000 (each team), Knockout round play-offs €500,000, 2nd in group stage €550,000, 1st in group stage €1.1 million

    Villa have now secured €3.44m + receipts on 40,000 at Villa Park. If minimum of £20 per ticket £800,000 for Hibs. There are 3 guaranteed home matches in group stage a further £3.2m

    All these figures are estimates. However, it leads me to the conclusion that Villa’s finances are in a positive position. Further, if we do well this year I believe Villa will be in a position to acquire a couple of top rated players. However, I am not sure how the FFP 70% of players wages to revenue impacts.

    Any rate just a bit of fun. I hope you enjoyed it.

  4. Gerry
    Gerry September 9, 2023 at 9:31 am . Reply

    Sidforever. What else would you do when there is no real football to watch. A great piece of work. Thanks

    1. Tom
      Tom September 10, 2023 at 12:16 am . Reply

      Here here!

  5. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson September 9, 2023 at 12:58 pm . Reply

    It seems that one of the new signings Tielemans unhappy . Belgium midfielder Youri Tielemans, 26, is unhappy at his lack of playing time for Aston Villa, having joined the club on a free transfer in the summer after his Leicester City contract ran out.

    1. 1874 was a good year
      1874 was a good year September 9, 2023 at 2:08 pm . Reply

      After just four games I’d be surprised if that were true. Surely Tielemans knew that there would be competition in the middle of the park and that it’s up to him to make himself one of those who are first on the team sheet.
      Vaguely remember when he wouldn’t sign a new contract at Leicester and he was dropped for a while. I might be wrong but I can’t recall him running to the press to bleat about it. More click bait BS probably.

    2. RSS
      RSS September 9, 2023 at 8:20 pm . Reply

      Didn’t he throw his toys and dummies out the pram at Leicester?
      Leopard, spots, change and all that.

      1. 1874 was a good year
        1874 was a good year September 11, 2023 at 1:09 pm . Reply

        I stand corrected…

    3. RSS
      RSS September 10, 2023 at 12:23 pm . Reply
  6. Sidforever
    Sidforever September 9, 2023 at 10:01 pm . Reply

    There is something in Watkins to Chelsea. Emery hoped he would sign a contract before the end of last season. The so called in the know from The Athletic and Claret & Blue podcasts had the contract being all but signed and yet nothing.

    Add to this that no new striker was bought in the summer. A deal was in place for an Abraham to return until he did an ACL – a trend setter!

    What if? Villa did not sign a new striker to give Watkins confirmation that he is valued and wanted and would sign a new contract.

    If he has not signed by start of November I think he will be in his way. His contract is now into the last two years. Either sign or be sold in January. At this point Villa will sell him high and add in monies in reserve to buy big. They don’t want him going into last 12 months and walking on a free.

    Just my conspiracy theory and time on my hands. I really dislike the international break.

    1. Texas Villan
      Texas Villan September 10, 2023 at 6:18 pm . Reply

      I think you’re probably right that there’s something in it. I think we didn’t sign someone because our first, second and third choices weren’t available or we couldn’t get the price we wanted – not in an effort to show Ollie we value him.

      I like Ollie, and thought we could do better, but reviewing some of the stats of strikers in general and the current going for prices, I think they’re just not available. I believe they’re hoping Diaby is the goal getter that we needed and will get close to 20 goals this season. Look at Isak at Newcastle, less prolific than Ollie and went for almost 70m. I was surprised we didn’t go for a 2nd forward; with us being linked to Jackson, Doku and others.

      Would agree overall that it’s a slight concern that he’s not signed a new contract within a few months I could see him leaving as there was a flurry of contract signatures over summer and thought he’d be one of those we really wanted to secure. He is an Arsenal fan, and still see the occasional article that Arteta wants him there. There’s on on HITC this morning.

  7. Holte
    Holte September 11, 2023 at 12:58 pm . Reply

    It’s all lazy journalism at it’s worst. If you look into the articles they all finish with the comment that nothing official has been reported BUT they wouldn’t be surprised if Watkins is on the radar of Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs or any other London based club because how could any player NOT want to play in the capital. Personally I think it’s all bullshit. Villa will only sell IF they want to sell. Unless Ollie begins scoring in the premier league, then he will need to start looking over his shoulder for the January replacement we have for him.
    Football is a results based business and if he isn’t scoring then he will will fall from grace. Players and managers are easily replaced if Villa aren’t successful and our owners haven’t got to where they are by being overly patient.

  8. RSS
    RSS September 11, 2023 at 5:33 pm . Reply

    http://www.birminghamworld.uk

    “Aston Villa have emerged as one of the bookies’ favourites for Gareth Southgate’s next destination.”

    O ye gods no!

    1. OLL again
      OLL again September 11, 2023 at 11:35 pm . Reply

      The premise is – Southgate has to go somewhere. Then they throw darts at the board. With his shonk and beard he might be in the sheikh-up for a job in Saudi. Last time he was at Villa Park he “left to join a bigger club – Middlesborough!” he might change trains at New St but that is a far as this story will run.

  9. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson September 12, 2023 at 8:33 am . Reply

    Don’t worry the mess he’s making as England’s hope will end that thought. Villa manager ha ha ha never in the reign of pigs pudding.

    1. Hitchens60
      Hitchens60 September 12, 2023 at 3:23 pm . Reply

      ‘Never in the reign of pigs pudding’ 🙂 ….. not heard that one in a long time Bill

  10. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson September 12, 2023 at 7:28 pm . Reply

    Put it down to my age Hitch use to say it many years ago . Murder tonight at 7-45

    1. Hitchens60
      Hitchens60 September 12, 2023 at 9:32 pm . Reply

      Bill,I still use it as an expression.

      Enjoying an extended stay in Canada with some good mates here, so no live football for a few weeks.

  11. Gerry
    Gerry September 12, 2023 at 7:52 pm . Reply

    Just concerned that McGinn might do something stupid and get an injury

    1. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum September 12, 2023 at 8:08 pm . Reply

      To his arse?

      1. Bill Pearson
        Bill Pearson September 12, 2023 at 8:37 pm . Reply

        No his Bum, Bum Bum.

        1. Hitchens60
          Hitchens60 September 12, 2023 at 9:33 pm . Reply

          🙂 🙂

          1. Bum Bum
            Bum Bum September 13, 2023 at 8:13 am . Reply

            Ba Dun, Tishhhhh… !!!

          2. Bill Pearson
            Bill Pearson September 13, 2023 at 1:45 pm . Reply

            RSS gosh wish he was on our books, I would say Grealish is not on the same levels as Bellingham quick mind and feet, poor show England ,apart from watching Jude and his skills Jude Bellingham was Brilliant Scotland couldn’t compete .

            1. RSS
              RSS September 13, 2023 at 2:15 pm . Reply

              Before my time Bill but I’m thinking (from what I’ve read) in the Duncan Edwards mould?
              (and from the same neck of the woods)

        2. RSS
          RSS September 13, 2023 at 11:24 am . Reply

          😂😂
          Very good Bill

          1. RSS
            RSS September 13, 2023 at 12:59 pm . Reply

            Yes it was only a friendly last night but just how good was Jude Bellingham?

  12. Adam
    Adam September 14, 2023 at 11:36 am . Reply

    Bellingham is world class. What England need now is a certain Jacob Ramsey to play alongside Bellingham. Forget this 2 defensive midfielders rubbish, particularly against inferior opposition (most teams). Rice is more than capable of doing that job on his own. Rice with Bellingham and Ramsey in front. Foden, Saka and Kane front three. That’s a midfield/attack that could win a major tournament in my opinion.

  13. badger123
    badger123 September 16, 2023 at 1:12 pm . Reply

    Sorry guys, I’m not up to writing anything. I’ve got Covid and feel terrible. I’m going for 2-2.

    1. DSVilla
      DSVilla September 16, 2023 at 4:55 pm . Reply

      Get well soon Badger. Ive got it too but don’t feel too bad atm. Doesn’t stop me being in bed while the missy’s brings me tea and snacks.

      Duran goal has given me a boost too

    2. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum September 16, 2023 at 5:00 pm . Reply

      What a turnaround!!!!!!

  14. 1874 was a good year
    1874 was a good year September 16, 2023 at 1:32 pm . Reply

    I see that Roy Hodgson is ill too and won’t be at the match. Not sure if that’s good or bad news for us…

    1. RSS
      RSS September 16, 2023 at 3:54 pm . Reply

      Not a bad first half but Watkins is so frustrating and Kamara dwells on the ball too long.

  15. Bum Bum
    Bum Bum September 16, 2023 at 4:08 pm . Reply

    Lots of covid Pt15 going around. Get well soon Mr Badger!!
    We did need good competition for Watkins. Still no idea why we sold Archer. Come on lads!!!

  16. Bum Bum
    Bum Bum September 16, 2023 at 4:09 pm . Reply

    Bloody ARSE!!!!!

    1. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum September 16, 2023 at 4:53 pm . Reply

      ‘His name is Rio and he dances on the sand!!!!’
      Duran!!!!!!

  17. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson September 16, 2023 at 4:39 pm . Reply

    Watch their passing it’s far quicker than us by miles .All this passing from the back as fucked Villa’s game, we have now slow movement in our game and clubs have worked our system out. I’m not now convinced we have the right players .

    1. RSS
      RSS September 16, 2023 at 4:45 pm . Reply

      Tielemans…
      The new Steven Ireland?

      1. RSS
        RSS September 16, 2023 at 4:50 pm . Reply

        What a finish!

      2. Bum Bum
        Bum Bum September 16, 2023 at 4:55 pm . Reply

        Penalty!!!!!

  18. Texas Villan
    Texas Villan September 16, 2023 at 4:52 pm . Reply

    Worldie of a finish.

  19. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson September 16, 2023 at 4:55 pm . Reply

    I went for a piss and we scored! Going for another so wait for it

  20. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson September 16, 2023 at 5:01 pm . Reply

    Just got back and a pen !!
    Goal

    1. RSS
      RSS September 16, 2023 at 5:04 pm . Reply

      What a ball by Tielemans, I retract my earlier comment 😁

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