Third Generation Villan has submitted the following. Cheers, TGV.
So we were beaten by a much better team on the day, I accept that but was disappointed with the performance and I think that will be most fans view even though we all hoped for a famous victory.
But rather than dwell on today’s disappointment I thought I would try to give an assessment of where we are and what to look forward to.
Its five years in August since MON left us, and Randy Lerner changed his investment strategy in an attempt to get back some of his outlay during the MON years. This period of under investment in the team has shown in the quality of the team and our form and league positions since then, as they say the table does not lie after a 38 game season you are where you deserve to be.
Now it does not matter if you blame MON or Lerner or anyone else over the last 5 years the quality of the team has declined steadily until the last few months of Lamberts time, Villa were the poorest in the premiership on nearly all fronts and we were certain to go down, and when we changed to Tim Sherwood we got the bounce or lift nearly all clubs get with a new manager and managed to stay up by the skin of our teeth, as I think the bounce had worn off after the west ham game and the players thought they were safe, and luckily we were.
So we come to a cup final against one of the premier league’s top teams with the same squad as under Lambert and with the bounce gone, the result was I suspect what we all feared may be the case but all hoped would not happen and we could pull off a shock win.
Now I am not having a go at Tim Sherwood, after all he did keep us up and I think he has earned the chance to build his own side over the coming season and then we can all decide if he is a good manager or not. And seeing some of the comments coming out tonight about changing the mentality of the players and a clear out during the summer etc. gives me some optimism for the season ahead. But time will tell.
But I think we have more reasons to optimistic now, then at any time over the last 5 years.
We are told we are close to being sold and hopefully will get better investment in the team
We are still in the Premier league, and with the money from the new TV deal should be able to cement our place there over the next few years.
We have a manager who likes to play attacking football, what most of us want (to be entertained) and will take the cup competitions seriously.
And has said already he has to rebuild the team and the way we play and the mentality of the players
Which all together means we will have lots to talk about over the next few months, a transfer window where we will probably be more active this year in and out.
if we agree or not with Tim Sherwood’s deals, if we like the new owners, the amount of investment etc.
So I think most of us will be optimistic, excited and hopeful about the future, and put todays result behind us. And hopefully look back in a few years’ time and say today was the end of the wilderness years for the villa
I would hope barton never plays at villa park, even in opposition, he is a chav with anger issues and money which has led him to believe he is above himself. He has committed many acts of thuggery and he is just about keeping a lid on it by sniping on twitter and wading in with unqualified opinion. Scum to me .. strong I know but thats how i feel about him.
Phillips – to me has proven he does not have the aptitude or the desire to play football. the talent maybe but he is on record as expressing his desire to stay at man city after multiple seasons of him warming a bench. he simply doesn’t care. he is about the wages and only the wages.
Austin – I would take, proven goalscorer, no one can dispute that now, 18 goals for a relegated side after season upon season of 20 goals+ in the championship for 2 clubs.
he has earned the right to continue in the premier league and we would lucky to have him I think.
He is more of an all rounder than most think.
Agree colonius hate everything that guy stands for.
here is the prank phone call on Benteke’s agent
Talks of a 2.7m bid for Weimann from Derby. Worth more, too good for the Championship, etc.
If Wilson comes from Bournemouth, and they are already planning without him, then we definitely need midfielders who can shoot straight from 18 yards. Wilson lays a lot of balls back to that position from the goal line wide of goal.
Gary Gardner ?
im starting to get worried by tims comments
“The fans want to see new faces as well. We can spend if I can justify it to the owners,
sounds like another season of limited spending unless randy sells the club.
i hope sherwood is not just another yes man like lambert but im starting to think with these sort of comments that he may be . is our budget all depending on whether benteke stays or goes .
But isn’t that comment true in any club and one interpretation would be as a message that we aren’t going to be held to ransom on transfer fees. I fear it says more about clubs seeing us with money from a Benteke transfer which always encourages a hike in fees when trying to buy. On the other hand I might be completely wrong!
Yep, if Tim states we have shedloads to spend, he will be inundated with Vulture agents trying to sell him has-beens and anyone decent will have their price doubled. He is just playing it a bit cool, however he has never dealt in a transfer market, so i do expect a certain level of hand holding, but this will be with the greatly experienced Tom Fox….. Thank the Lord fatty Faulkner has gone.
Very good point Saddened.
Express an Star say that Tim might be after Jonny Evans from Man U.
Interesting idea
And a bid for Van Persie as replacement for Benteke would be nice ! 🙂
I hope that’s a joke. Van Persie’s well past it.
It was a joke. I just put the wrong smiley face up ! 😉
Great suggestion Tekkers, lets try and re-sign Marlon Harewood too shall we?
I saw Harewood playing on TV the other week. He’s still going. Is he at Hartlepool???
Is Emile Heskey around? he’s only 37.
..inch neck
Bill , we already have the new Heskey. Isn’t that right Ooh Ahh !
Reports breaking that Cleverley has agreed to join Everton on a 5 year deal, which will be announced this week.
Oh well. I was on the side of hanging on to Cleverley but we just have to trust Tim and that he knows what he wants.
Must say, like someone else who posted earlier, mightily glad that the experienced Tom Fox is on hand to advise Tim on transfers.
Interesting times ahead 🙂
I’m a bit gutted, I really warmed to Cleverley after Sherwood came in. Felt he was vital in the way we have played under him. Hopefully he does have his targets lined up and Cleverley can be replaced, yeah. Sheesh, first Benteke and now Cleverley. What an awful week.
Not that bothered either way. After this season’s performances not really bothered about anyone leaving including Benteke provided price is right. To build a proper competitive team we need to buy 4 to 6 quality players that can hit the ground running backed up with those we keep.
Benteke has given us 3 years and we have added no players to the squad in that time that match his quality. He should be let go with our blessing but hopefully to a team outside premier league.
Looks pretty bad right now – a lot of players going out but not much talk about who will be actually replacing them.
Not surprised about Cleverley preferring Everton – geographically I think he just prefers it up there over Villa. He did his part keeping us up, but if it means we can give Gardner, Gil, or whomever a run out I welcome him leaving.
A bit of an overreaction. Doesn’t look bad at all, who cares if the media links us to anyone? All they do is think we’ll all of our players and buy Championship ones. They’re clueless.
I agree, the media knows just as much as we do – nothing. Nevertheless I don’t think that comment was overreacting.
I like the links to Trippier. Think he looks a great player…still gutted we missed out on Creswell after all the links to him before he went to West Ham. Hopefully Sherwood is better at picking out fullbacks than Lamberk was!
Im looking at it this way, if they want to go, let them, can we say we had a football team over the last decade? sorry but that team needs to go, give me player’s that play to win, play for the shirt, players for us fans, that performance last week takes some beating as players loving their job or gives a fuck about Villa, its going to be a long time before I forgive what they did for the club. Cleverly can go , they all can, start with players that love to win.
If we want a team full of passion and commitment then the first priority is that the player must want to play for Aston Villa.
My concern is more who’s coming in than going out, we need a total refurb imo over to you Tim do this cus at present we’ll remain a struggling team.I’m resigned to losing benteke as for the rest couldn’t give a flying fuck,I’m pessimistic already for next season & I’m going to need a hell of alot of convincing to think otherwise.yes the darksides finally got me.
Cleverley would have chosen Everton because they gave him a better pay deal……thanks again Randy! Its worrying me that I’m starting to become completely negative about Villa for the first time in my life…..Fuck off Lerner!
MATE I’m obviously not alone about my feelings.
Langford trust me we’ve had a lucky escape on this one. I also think he prefers Everton simply as they are nearer Manchester. Don’t think this has much to do with money as they don’t pay big wages either.
i would have liked for Cleverley to stay but would never have offered him a five year deal.
Not on half a dozen good games and 3 goals.
Everton are bonkers offering him that. An Everton St holder told me they are totally underwhelmed with TC going there and none of them wang him especially for 5 years ! And we think we have problems lol
OohAh for once I agree. I would have liked Cleverley to stay but only if he wanted to play for us. He can go and join his mate Martinez (who I dislike intensely) as money is clearly more important than playing for the Villa – will just shed a tear. We need more commitment like Delph.
*not shed a tear!
Agreed Hitchins
Possibly he wants to be re United with Martinez ?????
That’s true Oohah, its the pull of the city that’s made him join, what’s this city got? no competition in them err scum, Aston looking like a tip, Birmingham councilors couldn’t give a reception if we won, Leicester getting more attention lately.
Oohah, I dont think its a ‘lucky escape’ as he would have cost nothing! I cant forgive the club for Saturday’s performance. Sherwood is talking about rebuilding the club with the Benteke money. That tells me that the £32 mil is the most he will get….my bet is that he wont even get all of that. WTF, poxy little clubs like Stoke, West Ham, Swansea, Southampton, Leicester showing more ambition than us! The club is dieing a very slow and painful death!
@Langford Bit premature surely?
Let’s at least wait until we lose a few games. As for me I’m utterly confident we’ll be great next season and we’ll be involved in no relegation battles for the next few years.
Well no point in worrying until you have to, why spoil a (hopefully) nice summer?
Anyway IMHO it might be more important that the team (whoever they are) play as a team and play with spirit than looking at the individual components.
UTV
i have already read it on a few websites about our limited spending again this summer unless benteke goes .after the last few seasons i cant see randy suddenly opening up the wallet and spending big. pray for a buy out . pray like a catholic priest caught with his dick in the alter boy , pray like a muslim caught with his phone full of beheading videos, pray pray pray and then pray some more :/
I know IV always said Benteke will go but a lot depends on who comes in for him. I don’t think his heart is really in Liverpool plus the bin dippers don’t rate him anyway and think he’s another ballotelli for twice the price! The only northern club I think he would go to is Utd for obvious reasons. I think he has always wanted to play for a London club and Cheksea are only ones likely to bid for him. But with euros coming up he will want to be first choice but would be not much more than a back up for Costa.
So the Villa rescue Cleverley’s and he repays us by f()king off to Everton……… You just have to love the loyalty in todays football players !
I think Sir Tim will have a mass clear out this summer and all I can say is good riddance to bad rubbish!
Sorry should have said Cleverley’s career
The fucking cheek of it all,Aston Villa have sent a letter to renew our seats now,if we don’t we will loose the seat we have.. They did this last year ,took no notice then they rang, told them when I see something happening in the club I’ll buy. Langford your right they want our money to buy players mate.
I dont understand your frustrations Bill, there is lots going on at the Club….. They are selling all the players !!!!
Gosh Saddened never looked at it like that, you think I should ring them and say I will have the 4 seats don’t matter if we get nobody ? I’m going to do that in 3 months time.
Tell them to do one Bill. There will be thousands of seats to choose from I only know 2 out of 20ish St holders I know renew so far and that’s only because seats have been in her family for millions of years! Dosnt look like Lerner is selling and with the imminent departure of benteke and Sherwood having circa £10m to spend it will be exactly the same next season. Totally pointless
Fucking hell oohah. I am starting to agree in most of the things your saying….who would ever of thought that. What a shit 7 days we have had. Never thought I would feel this negative about our great club. I wont be attending any games at VP next season….not one, unless Sherwood is given ALL the Benteke money plus at LEAST £30 mil on top. The club are taking the piss, year after year! In life, I never let anyone take the piss more than once! After last Saturday’s disaster where the fuck is our so called saviour Tom Fox…..he’s slowly turning into yet another PR disaster. Why dont the club state that we ARE ambitious to move on significantly after 4 barren years of cost-cutting and poor entertainmeng. FFS, give us some hope at the very least!
pray langford PRAY .. im hoping he sells cause there is know way he is going to spend £30m on top of what he gets for benteke. we will be lucky if sherwood gets the benteke money to spend. i hope im wrong I would love to come on here at the end of the summer and say well done randy your a fecking hero . long live the lerner . im a praying , im a praying 🙂
That’s worrying agreeing with me it shows your losing it Langford lol :-). Agree though we need to spend £40-50 m on players or next season is simply not worth turning up for. We all know without wholesale changes we will yet again be a bottom 4 team. Tom Fox is just another yes man though probably a small upgrade on PF.