Beekay has submitted the following and I hope he’s right;
I’m worried. I’m sure I’m not the only one, but I wonder if my worries are unsubstantiated. To check I thought I’d put together the remaining games for us and our closest rivals at the bottom of the table. I’ve seen similar articles in the past few seasons (too many seasons, I’m sure you’ll agree), and wanted to see what others thought. Am I right? Am I pessimistic or optimistic? You tell me! (btw, this is my first article…)
So, here are the remaining games for us, Sunderland, Hull, QPR and Burnley (I’m assuming Leicester won’t win enough to be a threat). The points and places at end of season are based on points and places today, Tuesday April 7th.
ASTON VILLA (VTID!!!)
Tottenham: loss
Man CIty: loss
Everton: draw
West Ham: loss
Southampton: loss
Burnley: win
4 extra points, 33 at end of season – 16th place (yay!!)
SUNDERLAND
Crystal Palace: win
Stoke: loss
Southampton: loss
Everton: loss
Leicester: win
Arsenal: loss
Chelsea: loss
6 extra points, 35 at end of season – 15th place
HULL
Southampton: loss
Liverpool: loss
Crystal Palace: draw
Arsenal: loss
Burnley: win
Tottenham: loss
Man Utd: loss
4 extra points, 32 at end of season – 17th place (yay for Villa!!)
QPR
Chelsea: HUGE loss
West Ham: draw
Liverpool: loss
Man City: see Chelsea result
Newcastle: draw (being kind now)
Leicester: win (see above)
5 extra points, 31 at end of season – 18th place
BURNLEY
Arsenal: loss (duh!)
Everton: loss
Leicester: win (apparently I think everyone will beat them!)
West Ham: loss
Hull: draw
Stoke: loss
Aston Villa: loss (how could I not think that??)
4 extra points, 30 at end of season – 19th place
So, essentially I think that the table, as it stands today, will not change. I believe that what we see now is what we’ll see at the end of the season. We will escape, barely… but escape to fight another season. I’m also not naive enough to think I’m calling each game perfects (Crystal Palace beat Man City?!?!?), but I think the table will stay as is.
Next season? Build our defence (sorry Vlaar.. you’re out of here!) and we can, should be able to get top 10.
OK.. go!
Yes, it’s a bit early for me and things can change.
But I suspect you’re not far off the mark Beekay.
For me, it’s just about surviving this season for now and seeing what the summer brings.
You’re f**king hoping!
The only thing you can predict is that it will be unpredictable.
The end of season always throws up weird results especially when some teams have nothing to lose or win and think that their holidays start early.
If you got 30% of the above right I’d be amazed.
Hold on to your hats Villa fans
UTV
I live in the USA now, and my wife is a huge fan of the Wichita State Shockers men’s college basketball team. Each season they have a 68 team (out of 360+ I think) tournament known as March Madness. It’s huge over here, and may websites and TV networks provide forms to fill in to predict the results, know as ‘doing the brackets’. I did very well for my first every attempt (92% percentile until the semi’s – then I plummeted like a rock).
Why am I say all this? Well, I really enjoyed the brackets.. following each game, not just my Shockers, to see how well I stacked up. My article is much the same thing. It was fun to do, and I’ll be glued to phones, computers and TV’s during each game, seeing how well I do 🙂
I suspect you’re right though, but maybe 35% accurate?? 🙂
Not trying to state the obvious but…….Teams around us are picking up strange results and showing some fight, and our goal difference will be hammered in the next 3 games, also Hull and Burnley both have a game in hand…..This will go down to the last game, which is what Sky want as Chelsea will have won the title by then…
If we lose to West Ham at home we deseve to go down! I think we will just about get out of it this season, but we must go into every game and try and come away with something (even City away)
You’ve got Hull v Burnley down as both a draw and a win???!!! I think we’ll somehow get a coiple of wins to keep us up. Remember we’ve started scoring again which we simply couldn’t do before pratface was sacked. If he was still here, we’d be down already.
Cant see us getting more than another 3 pts under Dim, Grim, Tim.
Championship defence, League one midfield, League two manager and a Vauxhall Conference owner!
He’s Grim, He’s Dim and his real name is Tim, Deadwood OUT, Deadwood OUT
Fuck off Deadwood and Lerner, The Villa is OURS
Predicting the results for the final run in of the season is almost impossible as I’ve said before you can through the form guide out the window.as for some of the predictions I’ve read it’s worth our players getting on the plane now as we ain’t a hope,I certainly wouldn’t want to be stood next to some of you going into battle we’d be fucked from the off.
Throw not through.
@Giddy ‘I certainly wouldn’t want to be stood next to some of you going into battle we’d be fucked from the off’
Don’t include me, I not saying that we’ll go down (although I was absolutely certain we would when Lambert was in charge) just that it’s going to be hard to predict exactly how it will turn out.
Still think we’ll have enough …just
UTV
Pat under our predecessor we’d be rock bottom with a GD in the -30’s & yes I’d join the defeatist posse aswell by now MATE.
I still think we will stay up Pat but it willbe exactly the same next year.
I’m contemplating suicide…I am seriously scared of getting old. Having read Oohah’s and Langfords posts on here I don’t want to get old. If that is what old age does to you, sending people Senile, then I want to die before I reach that age. I really didn’t think Langford was so judgmental, so defeatist, I genuinely thought he was a positive person who was up for the fight, It’s sad that someone who was so well respected on here has decided to jump on the negative crew’s bandwagon.
I’m with you on this one Giddy, let the defeatists be just that….defeatists.
Badger and I don’t think that actually is Langford. As for OhAhh…it’s just a shame isn’t it…
P.s. We will NOT be relegated.
Langfords finally seen the light that’s why. It is absolute shit at our club and even though we will probably stay up it will be exactly the same next year. Before you slate me remember I said this for past 3 years and I was correct. Same shit different manager.
B6, lol
Giddy, I really believe you’re right.
We’d have been gone by now, with Lambert still playing with the same “limit the damage” mentality.
Anyone was a better choice than him.
Totally agree with you oohah that it is the same shit different manager. So therefore tell me why you slate the manager when he’s only been here 5 minutes when you blatantly admit that the problems lie deeper than with the manager? You constantly contradict yourself. It doesn’t make sense that you slate manager after manger when you’re admitting that the problems lie deeper. You’re quick enough to gloat when you’re occasionally right yet when you’re proved wrong you go quiet on the subject with no explanation. Maybe….no definitely, that’s the reason why YOU get slated so much imo.
Can’t find it in me to blame TS even if we do go down.
Lambert had drilled mediocrity and fear into the players over a number of years and, while you can change tactics and formations, that underlying culture of underachievement is really hard to overcome.
However if he keeps us up, as I fully expect he will, then I think he will have proved that he’s not just a good manager but a f***ing genius IMHO
BTW I’ve looked in the crystal ball and I’m expecting some unexpected results…
… and all in our favour!
Keep the faith and UTV
I agree 100% Pat. Even if we do go down no blame from me to TS
All hail king Sherwood! The man has performed miracles to get us where we are at the moment. We just need Lerner to go and the dark clouds would finally disappear!
Best news lately is that Kozak is nearing a first team return. Would be huge if he could get a couple of games in this season. He’s going to be a big player for us.
Performed miracles!! Are u on drugs Adam
WE WON’T GO DOWN.UTV VTID
I don’t unserstand all this Time Serwood out talk. You have to understand that TS has inhereted a bunch of players where half are not cut-out for the premiership. He has had to come in and motivate them to stay in the PL. So far he has done weel under the circumstances (I’m positive we’d be bottom of the league right now under the previous jock), player confidence takes a long time to ruin, and also takes a hell of a long time to get back, it doesn’t happen immediately.
I think TS is a decent manager and we have to at least give him his own window to see what he can do. He worked superebly witht the homegrown youth at Spuds which I’m sure he’ll do that with us as well.
Everyones panicking a bit, me included but as I said I think we have the right man in place, I think we have enough about us compared to others around to beat the drop.
If we see the same thing again next season (whichever league we’re in) then we need some serious money thrown into a good quality and experienced manager. I don’t think we’ll need to though.
Yep and you were probably one the Lamberk apologists in his early days saying he inherited a pile of shite from mclown and we must give him time as lamberk is a good manager and plays great football etc etc. Look what happened there. Sherwood is clueless tactically he is an embarrassment. He us a decent motivator but his only tactic is pass forward and go for it. You cannot hope to out score opposition when you’ve only one decent striker and a shite mudfield and defence.
Lest anyone forget that, although we only got a draw last Tuesday, we did score 3 goals.
Under the last management we only got one goal every other blue moon.
If we can score – we can survive
UTV
Ha! That reminds me of Arnie in Predator…”If it bleeds, we can kill it”!!! Our biggest problem before TS was that we couldn’t score. When you can get them in the back of the net, you have a good chance of staying up. If only our preferred back four were fit… 🙁
The danger to Villa’s chances of survival is second-half fade. We have been suffering it all season, because the substitutes have made the performance worse. Other sides can bring on a cameo player to try and bag a goal, we bring on Cole and Weimann which frees up an opponent from his defensive work to assist their attack. We need some of the crocks fit so we don’t have to bring on trash. Our survival will be decided in the treatment room and at the cursed BH killing fields.
I still worry about the teams around us picking up points and having games in hand etc…. But then I look back to how I felt a few months ago and feel refreshed – we are playing some good football at times and scoring some goals… If it was any of the Sky 4 playing on Tuesday QPR would have been down to 9 men, Sherwood has transformed the Club… So lets sit back drink lots and call AA in May.
Exactly what I plan to do 🙂
Already am. 😀 UTV
To be fair to Sherwood, I came away from the Hull game convinced we were down and that Lambert had to go.
There was no fight, we looked a beaten side as soon as an unlucky deflected goal went in against us, and you could see that the manager had completely lost his dressing room.
For me, we were a relegation side walking, no goals in us, and lots of daft errors ready to gift sides goals.
Since then, we have scored fifteen goals in nine games. Without goals, you can’t win games, and it’s the three points that will be the difference come the end of the season, we need another two wins and that should do.
The fact that we have an outside chance of a win or at least penalty shoot out against Liverpool and the season could end reasonably well.
Say what you will about Sherwood, but he seems to have lit the blue touch paper with some of our strikers, and the whole team seems to be trying harder.
I think that we’ll stay up with four or five points to spare, and it is only fair to judge Sherwood on what he does in the Summer, and which players go and who he brings in.
I desperately wanted Lambert to succeed, he didn’t. I also want Sherwood to be a great success here at VP, I can’t understand those that seem to have written him off or want him to fail already.
Who would you want in ? Alan Pardew, or Tonly Pulis or Dick Advocaat ? At least we’re giving a promising young Englishman a chance.
If he can win the FA Cup he’s in my good books forever !!!
Tomorrow will be interesting, I think he goes to Spurs with a point to prove, but I can’t see Spurs being as lacklustre as they were last Sunday. Burnley caught them at a good time right after an International break that a fair few Spurs players were still on a high from and found club football a bit of a bump back to earth.
Whatever, I shall be there supporting them to the end, let’s hope the famous jug has claret and blue ribbons on it.
For the first time ever, I fully agree with you Vaze. At least I’m looking forward to each game now, whereas beforehand…
People were in dream land of who would replace Lambert. A few of us gave some pretty good and actual possible managers, others claimed we had a chance at getting Klopp which was a joke. Pardew? No thanks. He’ll do wonders at Palace but when he lost at Newcastle, they went on an awful run, he like Bournemouth’s manager is where he belongs, where he’s absolutely loved.
Think the big thing people are missing is that we’ve scored 11 in 7 games. Compared to the 12 in 25, we’ve be utterly screwed if not for Sherwood’s big changes mentally and yes, tactically. He still has a lot to learn, and some of what he does is questionable obviously, but that’s a big change we’ve seen. Problem is we’ve conceded 11 and that in itself is a worry, but we’ve also had some serious injuries to our defense, which has been a huge problem all season is keeping the defense fit. If we can seriously get a back 4 of Lowton-Okore-Clark-Cissokho for Tottenham, I’d be absolutely delighted.
So, after the first 3 games into my prediction list I’m only 33% right (Villa won!!! Sunderland lost and Hull lost (my only correct). I DON’T CARE. WE WON!!!!!
Besides, after Burnley lose to Arsenal and QPR lose to Chelsea, I’ll be 60% so far.. yay 🙂