Terry Jones has submitted the following;
I submitted an article titled “Lambert Out” but it has not been posted and I am wondering as to why.
Is it that nobody wants to hear the truth? as some comments so far are still making lame duck excuses for Lambert’s failings by saying give him time to sort it out.
Sorry to say, time is running out fast as we no longer have a team that is worthy of our support.
Since Lambert came to the club he has spent somewhere in the region of £40 million but not on players of quality.
Each transfer window as one poster has said we are linked with players in the region of £10 million or so giving the fans hope that things will get better. None of these signings however materialise and all he does is waste money on players in the region of 1 to 2 million either from the lower leagues or abroad and all he says is the vision is for young hungry players and building for the future. This reminds me of the crouchy advert. Hungry for success? no way. They are only hungry for a bigger wage packet than they were getting at the clubs they were playing for.
As it stands the club is devoid of direction, ambition or leadership and since he has been at the helm we have picked up more unwanted records than at anytime in our great history.
So is it not fair to say that we now need a new captain of the ship before it sinks without a trace?
The truth is yes. Lambert was never and never will make it as a top manager. His record speaks for itself and unless there is change either by Lerner sacking him or Lerner selling up or new owners taking over and bringing in a top manager who can attract players to the club then I am afraid that the situation is not going to get any better soon.
All we are going to see is the demise of a great club we all love and support.
Lambert must go or all we will get is seeing our club struggle year in year out. I don’t think this is what most fans want, not after the past four years.
Your thoughts please.
JAY DEE..i think the pessimism is the mere fact that we look at our midfield and it is shit.. no creativity no goals no protection for the back four.. so being realistic we will struggle in games..
When was the last time we won a game comfortably?
Sunderland at home who are about as piss poor as you can get
Well yeah, Sunderland as other than City, they were the last league team we’ve beaten.
Shit Sunderland won today to at home to Newcastle the team we lost to ffs
Watch it , what I’ve said we are crap,
It’s just one of those seasons where anyone can beat anyone.
Good for the neutral but as usual Villa beat Arsenal and Man City, Miss a penalty and 2 sitters against Everton and come out for the second half looking shit.
Let’s just bury it and get behind the lads next weekend. We normally do alright against the second best Claret and Blue Team in England
UTV
Ha thats about right a year or so into a new villa manager’s reign – and a OUT campaign starts
Ah no though seriously we are mid table not in the champions league and we just lost another game with a decent performance which doesn’t count. Unless we win a game playing badly then it does count.
Ya its time to withdraw our support again
I was angry yesterday and was going mad saying Lambert needs to go but now the sober light of day has kicked in it’s not such a good idea.
Who would want the job? Ian Holloway? ffs!!!
Give Lambert until the end of the season and see where we are.
The powers at villa are not going to give him his P45 any time soon after they let him redecorate the tunnel at VP. They will stand by him unless we do a Sunderland or we proper turn against him like McLeish and the Bolton game with the hatred that was felt from the stands
I struggle to see how anyone can look beyond comparing the Cleveland Browns and Villa. We’re in the same depressive, badly managed, low investment, poor appointments condition.
SIXTEEN FUCKING YEARS the Browns fans hadto put up with this shit.
Lerner had to sell one club because of paying off his wife, allegedly, and any fool can see an EPL club is by far the better investment, hence the emancipation of the Browns.
It doesn’t matter what Lambert does or doesn’t do. With no money in this league, the odds are stacked against you. Fortunately for Lerner, it once again looks like there are more hapless teams below us that will occupy the bottom three places. And for that Lerner must be pissing himself daily in his solid gold pants.
Every other argument is redundant until Lerner goes, and put that in your diary for circa 2024.
That’s the worry though Mark.
The boos were quite noticable at the end of the game.
As much as some of our more positive posters (and believe it or not, I still retain some positivity) don’t like to hear it, I believe there is a slowly changing tide of opinion that isn’t happy with this “young and hungry” stuff.
That tide will of course quickly turn on the back of a couple of wins, as footy fans in general are fickle.
But I can feel the pressure building on Lambert and a further run of bad results will just accelerate things.
All in my crystal ball, but also a totally realistic opinion, lol.
We quite simply need a couple of wins in the next few weeks.
Ideally convincing wins too, while we’re at it.
I agree. If lambert has bought into this cheap and young way of doing things or if its his idea totally then he has to at least show its working or get the required results,but to say results have been poor even more so at home is an understatement. Lambert said he would live or die by his decision to do things his way and currently he is dying!
Penile,
I do wish you’d change that name as it’s just plain daft.
That said, you’re making valid comments, so I’ll just have to live with it, I suppose.
Btw, it’s Dys, not dis, but there you go.
16 years eh?
That’s a scary thought, IF things stay as they are.
You never know, he might decide to go again after having had a couple of years of raking it all back in.
I live in hope.
And when I referred to £50 mill previously, that was without the Benteke money actually.
So say £80 mill with wages included.
Now that’s being positive!
Or am I deluding myself?
Would be nice for Lerner to have another go at it…..Who’s to say he won’t it’s only been 4 years since his last go…..Good point UTV
Thanks for the spelling tip. You obviously know more about the condition than I do 😉
It’s why I rarely visit football blogs anymore. If you haven’t got the money, you perform miracles like Moyes did at Everton, hang around mid table like Fulham, or boing like the Baggies.
I don’t necessarily want Villa bought out by an oligarch, I’d prefer sanctions to ensure a more level playing field but it won’t happen, especially in this country. The teams put out byCChelski and City today cost over £400 million quid. And that’s without the wages or agents fees. Immoral on every level.
I’ll get me coat and brave the winds to my Japanese class.
Good luck for the rest of the season kids. We’re gonna need it!
Cheeky sod, but probably not that far from the truth. Fortunately, it’s not quite all over for me just yet 🙂
Yes, totally Immoral, agreed.
As long as you keep posting valid points, we hope you’ll be back mate.
Here’s a point for debate I’m quite sure Lambert wants success at Villa Park.It will be no good for him or his CV if he fails at AVFC.Lambert will only take so much and will be wanting to be backed by Lerner in the transfer market.This is Lamberts 2nd top flight job.He will want European football and trophies.AVFC are not a small club so this is Lamberts opportunity to make his mark.Lambert will not want to be stuck at a bottom feeder club UTV
Well that goes to show we all was glad to see the back of Deadly Doug, but what we did was jump out of the pot into the fire, according to what’s happening we are being used to line a yanks pocket, football don’t come into his way of life, milk the British fans is his moto, Sorry to say things like that but , but we do deal daily with them , and its dog eats dog is their way Iife, only a miracle can help us to win things at our beloved game, if that was a English man as manager and not a Scotsman he would see the light, what he could do about it god only knows. I pray for that day……
That’s a fair point Jay Dee.
You should write a post saying just that on your new blog
http://astonvillasupportersclub72.wordpress.com/
And that’s the last plug I’m giving you lol 🙂
You didn’t have to do that mate but thanks.The next post I will be doing will be on here mate UTV Prepare myself for the backlash lol
No worries mate.
As for any backlash, I doubt it.
Of subject but did anyone see Chelsea’s winner v city almost a carbon copy of the weimann goal against then. They were without kompany this time though their away firm is as crap as our home form. Can’t believe they are one if the favourites to win the league no chance.
It’s a pisspoor league Oohah, where anyone can beat anyone, imo.
And just as I think Pool are also really not very good, it proves it is still early days in the season.
I think pool are easily top 4 as long as Suarez and Sturridge stay fit not many teams will beat them this year. Agree though no one had stood out this year mainly because a lot of teams are in transition which is why Lerner should if spent big this year as teams like utd etc are not what they were which beans we might have closed gap
So far this season we have had tougher games than the beginning of last and we’re at about the same place. Lose against West Ham and get nothing at home against Cardiff which is highly likely and I’ll be in the Lambert out camp and firmly.
I’d say give him until Christmas as I mentioned in my post the other day but it may well be too late by that stage.
However, the biggest question of all, who is available as a replacement??? I say we need to go foriegn and young, why not Ole? Someone like AVB /Pottechino will do me nicely.
JD mate, your right, of course he wants success as much as we do but of late I just don’t see the ability of our manager being capable of acheiving that. I was a huge supporter of the Lambert acuisition and was chuffed when we got him but Villa is just looking too big for him unfotunately.
I’m sure I read recently that Ole knocked it back because of the pitiful spending money, but could be wrong.
Lol wouldn’t surprise me at all mate
Now that is something I hope that gets addressed.We are not a bottom feeder club so I’m hoping next summer Lerner will dip in UTV
I’ve just changed my abouts page and left news and views addy so you have a permanent advertisement UTV
OLE thought he was getting the Manure job that,s why.But we will never know the truth same as why Mon walked out.
We play well for one half and have done for a long time now. Some bright points within the team but our game plan at times is readable. Wiemann needs a rest and Tonev should be a rugby player. This summer is crucial like all are but with the big earners all but gone let’s see what bullshit is served up by Faulkner and Lerner. I don’t blame Lambert he is working in a tight budget and this PR about young and hungrY only works when that is what we have and I don’t see it
I don’t buy this lambert working to a tight budget rubbish. He shouldn’t be we should be at least competing with saints Ffs.
Supporting villa at the minute is like owning a jaguar with the engine of a skoda! top training facilities,good youth system,nice stadium, and a proud history but a cheap and tacky team on the pitch and ultimately that’s what represents our club! As for having to sign players on 20 grand a week,surely all the high earners are gone now as the only player left from the mon era is delph so why shouldn’t we be looking to sign quality players on slightly higher wages or maybe its just another excuse or lie from the owner and manager so they can continue ripping fans off with their cheap vision!
Pretty much how I see it Luke.
We have to bring some quality in, but it will cost.
Trouble is, I don’t see Lerner doing it, as he’s got away with what he’s already done in nearly stripping any quality (or should I say anyone remotely expensive) we had, out of the club and not replacing it.
Hello Morgan, long time no see mate.
Hello mate really busy at the moment. Hope all is well UTV
I think the Southampton debate is a good one.They have progressed quickly.They have thrown money at it and bought a few quality players.Quality that is managed properly will have you up the table…..I do sometimes wonder will Lerner give it another go.I would love to hear him tell the supporters what his plans are or even Paul F tell us…..UTV
Managers can sometimes be the last to see what happens on the field, particularly if it does not fit with their game plan. But how do we know with Lambert? Did you hear his post match comment on MotD? I did – and despite being Scots myself I couldn’t understand a word of the effing mumble! God knows what the sassenachs made of it.
Every sane comment on these pages points to our crap midfield. Actually you can tell this from the match stats of % possession. In EPL games this stat directly mirrors the relative strength of the clubs’ midfields. Villa have been under 50 except against Sunderland and Hull. The first Icon to demolish then is Delph. I think since he joined Villa he has played in only two, perhaps three EPL home wins.[statto’s please confirm]. I know from a couple of EPL players I chat to – that clubs target him with three players to force him to give the ball away. It is standard in their tactical briefing. It works because he thinks he is better than he is.
Enough for one post but my next comments are a move for Gabby to left back, and critical flaw in Guzan, so they won’t be popular until posters think about it.
3 players on Delph???
I must be missing something there, as I’ve never seen it.
If you mean 3 players looking to take him out, that figures.
Shows what a good job he’s doing though, if the opposition take him so seriously, imo.
Guzan has a few flaws. His distribution is sometimes poor, for a start, so no surprise there.
Gabby to LB though?
You’ve got me with that one, as he’s nothing like a defender.
But then perhaps you’re suggesting that we don’t have a decent LB anyway, which would be a reasonable assertion.
I await your next post of ultimate enlightenment with anticipation.
“I know from a couple of EPL players I chat to”
Are we really supposed to take that seriously?
Fuck’s sake 🙁
Delph thinks he’s better than he is? He has actually been our best player this season mate.
Have you ever met Fabian? He is the most humble player ever. Not big headed at all. An example is the fact he said he wants to play for villa for the rest of his life. He’s happy at our club and that’s the Yorkshire man in him, he would rather be a big fish in a medium pond than a sub sitting on Man Citys bench hence why he chose us over Man City when he left Leeds.
When he moved to us Villa put him up an New Hall Hotel in Sutton Coldfield. He was only 19 and he let the lads at the club wind him up saying the hotel was haunted, he’s that humble/gullible he believed them and he shit it and moved to a city centre hotel!!!
He’s down to earth and will be a good loyal player I think. We need to look after him.
sorry badger that was actually at London Lion not you, soz mate
I jus think we need to re-evaluate the team selection. The back4 is looking a lot more solid, so there wont be any hammerings this season. I think we must give the Benteke/Weimann partnership a shot, they work so well together. If we can get width and supply balls in to those two, we will get goals. Lowton needs to be recalled, pushing Bacuna on to the right of midfield. Maybe give Tonev (oe even Bennett) a shout on the left of midfield, with Delph and Sylla in the middle.
I still think we need to bring in a top quality central mid in January, i just wish we hadnt wasted 6m on Kozak.
A man talking sense – Bacuna in Midfield where he belongs. I bet you he is shit hot like a Milner type if we player him down the centre
Kozak = Bosko Balaban + Ivo Stas x Kevin Gage / Ian Ormondroyd = all shit!!!! 🙂
It’s where he played in Holland. Was very good there too, could definitely be our Milner. Didn’t he say when he joined he wanted to be Villa’s Lampard?
Andrew if that’s right it puts doubts on our coaching staff abilities, that’s why we fail we don’t have that type of player in our side, we need a central player to the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Scoles in his playing days, and Barry. They all play by splitting open defenders with that telling ball, that’s why we break down is we don’t have that player in our side, every team that comes against us just wait for that moment to counter attack and beat us on that move, We also don’t use the wing play to draw out defenders, its tip tap through the middle, teams have us down to a tea will beat us every time, Arsenal ,City, we took them by surprise in our type of play, but won’t again.
Agree mark what a waste of money for kozac maybe that’s why lambert only buys players for £2m as anything over that he struggles. Though he did well with benteke but still think that’s a fluke
He paid &M for Benteke but u put that down to a fluke even thou he is worth 30M now.. he also brought Okore for 4M.. who looks a top prospect..
Iv said Okore was a good buy but he us an injured top prospect at the moment!
it is all about money and lerner does not release know where near the amount he should,and the thing with villa is we could win the next two or we could lose them both none of us know which villa we are going to get game to game.
Witton, it’s not all about money, but it’s mostly about money unfortunately.
Good morning one and all.Now since i put this articale forward for discussion i have read all your comments with great interest but am still not enlightened as to the truth.This is why i wrote it hoping that through meaningfull debate we may have come near to finding out the truth as to why we find our club in the state it;s now in.But i am still waiting for the age of enlightenment as to the truth.So what is the real truth behind the clubs state of afairs .
Now when Sir Deadly put the club up for sale we were on a good financial footing i;e no debt and am i correct in saying that there were several cntenders whom wanted to buy the club.Was not of those a Villa fan and businessman whom formed a consortium anther being Ray Ransom and old frog face himself Dave Whelan.Yet we found the club being sold to one Randy Lerner someone we had never heard of.Yes great at first but after Mon walked out nothing more than decline apart from Gerard Houllier whom because of health reasons was unable to try and bring pride back to our great club.Now i think this question must be asked would any of the names mentioned as potential owners have been any better than the one we have or would we have still found ourself,s in the same situation we are now.
Good point terry there was some qc guy involved to. No wouldn’t want a consortium but would still prefer Arab money but that’s never going to happen I’m afraid.
Terry my new found friend’ if I remember rightly was there not a clause into that sale, was not to sell off the assets of the club, and that’s why he had Lerner, could be wrong my old mate. 🙂 🙂