Villa 2 – 1 Leeds; Good and bad, but a good watch.

Well, it’s now bindingly obvious as to what Emery wants.
The intention is to play, play, play short range passing at fast pace, even when we’re under pressure at the back.
I don’t like it normally, especially when it involves Konsa and Mings, but I felt it actually worked today and the players are starting to be able to do it.

Don’t get me wrong. It scares the proverbial out of me, but there were times around the hour mark, where I thought our rapid one touch football was outstanding.
Given that we’ve seen signs of it being tried over the last year or so, I’m wondering what we’re doing different now that makes us look at least a bit better than totally useless at it.

It was interesting to read comments not just here, but also elsewhere about how poor we were for the first half. While our early goal aside (which massively helped us) we were conceding all the decent play to Leeds, I was loving it just for the much improved pace in our game.
We knew Leeds would play fast and we at least stepped it up to match it, in my opinion.
While I didn’t think it was particularly good, I was happy.
Play poorly and slow and you’re bound to lose, I thought.

I have to give a mention first to Gnonto. I thought he was outstanding for them and a serious threat every time he got the ball.

But sod him. Ash Young did a superb job of stifling and even winding him up. Matty Cash would have had his proverbial well and truly kicked today.

Moreno looked as bad as you’d expect given his lack of Premier league experience when he came on for Digne, who has a dislocated shoulder by the looks of it, but he soon got into it and made a very good debut.

Kamara looks excellent and his eye for a pass is superb.

I know it was not an ideal performance overall, but I thought Mings and Konsa didn’t look too out of place either. Yes, there are the usual faux pas and Mings slipping looked like it could be costly, but ultimately it came to nothing.

I’m still not convinced by Bailey, but can’t deny when it’s on his left foot he can be good.

No doubt I’ve forgotten someone, but it’s academic.
I’ve a feeling many will say we were abysmal tonight. And they’ll probably be right.

But I massively enjoyed that game, as it represented more about what the game is supposed to be, in playing with intent.
Which is quite strange, given that I spent much of the game complaining about how we were passing it back too much.

I said in the preview that I could maybe have taken a defeat as long as I felt entertained.

I suppose the moral of all this is that if we play fast, keep passing back, yet still win, I can live with it and be happy.

But if we do all the above and lose, I’ll hate it.

I suspect we might have to get used to this type of performance as my understanding is that it’s this type of play that got Emery results.

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  1. OLL again
    OLL again January 13, 2023 at 10:43 pm . Reply

    Very pleased with the team’s application, and Moreno’s debut. Ramsey looked a bit off the pace on his return but he was the subject of a reducing foul. Our shooting still needs work and the poncing about at the back always looks like an accident waiting to happen.

  2. Holte
    Holte January 13, 2023 at 10:49 pm . Reply

    First half was as bad as first half against Wolves. The difference was we scored and Leeds didn’t. Second half we improved and got the second goal which settled us down. I think the Coutinho and Sanson substitutions affected us initially but thankfully their equaliser didn’t lead to 2-3 capitulation which I feared at the time.
    The playing out from the back scares the shit out of me but that’s Emery’s style of play so I guess we need to embrace the many heart palpitations we will suffer going forward.

  3. VillaAwayInDiv3
    VillaAwayInDiv3 January 13, 2023 at 10:52 pm . Reply

    great write up…….I was going to comment at 1/2 time but didnt want to put the kybosh on them.
    I loved the game but was shouting ” why does the ball always fall to them” …the law of averages went out of the window. All action match and cant see why Leeds are so low in table….if we played like that every match it would be brilliant.
    Can see Martinez getting a red soon…no need to go to that extent to waste some time…the officials will add it back on so STOP IT…

    1. RSS
      RSS January 13, 2023 at 11:15 pm . Reply

      He can’t mate, love him to bits but it’s in his DNA.

  4. Holte
    Holte January 13, 2023 at 10:57 pm . Reply

    While Neville seemed biased towards Leeds and Gnonto particularly, Having said that If I was a Leeds fan I would be fuming about his comment linking Gnonto to Citeh. The surprise was he didn’t suggest Man Ure! Dublin on the other hand was a bit claret and blue tinted glasses about our performance.

  5. Bradley Ricketts
    Bradley Ricketts January 13, 2023 at 11:19 pm . Reply

    Good result today, take anything you can get out of a game like this. The football is improving and being at the game the scare when we play it round the back against a pressing team like Leeds is even worse! But it is very entertaining and the passing football is excellent – I see it only getting better under Unai Emery. Moreno looked good as well clearly grown into it and his nerves settled, eased into it definitely after the second goal. Onto Southampton away who we should no doubt be beating with our quality facing theirs. Hoping to see a similar style of football played at St. Mary’s too. UTV!

  6. Sidforever
    Sidforever January 13, 2023 at 11:30 pm . Reply

    Badger
    You have summed the game up perfectly. Like you the passing within our penalty area scares me, but as you say we are becoming more comfortable at it.

    I am going to sound like a broken record, but Emery is a winner. Plus I like the fact he has been control of buying who he wants. I really believe we are going in the right direction.

  7. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 January 14, 2023 at 7:55 am . Reply

    Been reading the full transcript of Emery’s post match comments for Villa TV which are interesting.

    One thing that strikes me about him is how he publicly supports all the players in the squad but, at the same time, can quite subtly indicate where they can improve.

    Also starting to get used to his use of certain words like ‘confused’ when referring to the players / play. Not literally confused but rather ‘it’s not working properly’ so he needed to make changes.

    No denying that overall he’s dramatically improved our performances and, as the ‘sample size’ increases, we appear to be finding a better level of consistency. Like most on here though this playing out from the back gives me the heebie jeebies 🙂

    But one happy bunny this morning.

  8. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 January 14, 2023 at 2:36 pm . Reply

    Good win today for the ladies – beating Spurs 2-1.

    Daley again – what a signing that has been.

    With Daley joining and now Nobbs and Staniforth should start attracting some morecof the top names in women’s football to VP.

  9. RSS
    RSS January 14, 2023 at 3:56 pm . Reply

    Off topic but with Man Ure beating Pep’s globe trotters
    It seems weird how teams buy a top forward and it doesn’t pan out as expected.
    Going back to the sixties Spurs won the title in 61 bought Greaves, yes he was prolific but they never won the title again.
    Arsenal bought Wighty and again prolific but never won the title until his last season.
    Perhaps history could be repeating itself with Haaland?
    🤞

  10. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 January 14, 2023 at 4:50 pm . Reply

    See Southampton are coming into form just before playing Villa!

    Going to be a very difficult game so interesting to see how Emery approaches it.

    1. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum January 15, 2023 at 9:19 am . Reply

      Nah. 3 points mate (I hope)!!!!!

  11. William Pearson
    William Pearson January 15, 2023 at 1:49 pm . Reply

    Chuckie playing for Chelsea at 2 o’clock ko , now to see if we should have kept him ..

    1. RSS
      RSS January 15, 2023 at 2:29 pm . Reply

      Chumbawamba’s been pretty anonymous for the first half hour.

  12. William Pearson
    William Pearson January 15, 2023 at 2:32 pm . Reply

    Looks heavy as well , not as quick also .

    1. RSS
      RSS January 15, 2023 at 3:54 pm . Reply

      They scored within minutes of him being subbed.
      What’s that say?
      😁

    2. RSS
      RSS January 15, 2023 at 3:57 pm . Reply

      Bill it must be all those whelks and jellied eels down south.

      1. Hitchens60
        Hitchens60 January 15, 2023 at 4:03 pm . Reply

        🙂

      2. William Pearson
        William Pearson January 15, 2023 at 7:13 pm . Reply

        My favourite food shellfish, they say it helps your love life.😂

        1. RSS
          RSS January 15, 2023 at 11:32 pm . Reply

          👍😂

  13. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 January 16, 2023 at 7:28 am . Reply

    Just watched Martinez Worldie save from Harrison. Hadn’t noticed before but Martinez was diving across the goal before the ball had even reached Harrison. It was like he was tracking the flight of the ball with his body in a horizontal dive. Quite outstanding.

  14. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 January 16, 2023 at 2:29 pm . Reply

    Now don’t get excited but we’ve agreed a second deal.

    Jhon Duran from Chicago Fire!!!

    19 year old Colombian centre forward who has already won 3 caps for the national side – but it doesn’t really get the juices going – does it!

    What does this say about Archer? Point that Badger has been making – if our young players are good enough they’d be getting minutes with the first team. Instead, I suspect Emery sees them as Championship standard so may well see Archer goon a permanent in the summer.

    Do they speak Spanish in Columbia? 🙂

  15. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 January 16, 2023 at 2:31 pm . Reply

    B***dy hell – £15m possibly rising to £30m with add ons. Puts old Chukweumeka’s deal in the shade 🙂

    He better be good for that sort of money

    1. Hitchens60
      Hitchens60 January 16, 2023 at 2:47 pm . Reply

      Apologies; mixing £ and $.

      £15m rising to £23m – signing a 5 year contract subject to medical visa and work permit.

  16. Sidforever
    Sidforever January 16, 2023 at 3:09 pm . Reply

    I love the way Villla for their transfer business. It’s announced!

    Even better is none of us know anything about him. The blurb I have read is that he is the youngest scorer in Colombian league football at 15 and scored a few last year Chicago Fire.

    I bet he won’t be destined for a long spell in the bench!

    Let’s hope he follows in the footsteps of our last Colombian forward – one Juan Pablo Angel.

    Jhon – welcome to Villa Park!

  17. Bum Bum
    Bum Bum January 16, 2023 at 4:15 pm . Reply

    Sounds very interesting to me! 🙂
    I’m with Sid, doing business the quiet way.

  18. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 January 16, 2023 at 4:35 pm . Reply

    More updates on the Duran deal.

    It seems he’s current with the Colombian U20 side and has been released for a medical and to sign a contract but locally, not in the UK. Then he has to return to the national side so not sure when he’ll actually arrive at BMH.

    As you say, love the way Villa do these deals completely under the radar. On that basis we can probably discount all the media speculation 🙂

    1. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain January 16, 2023 at 5:23 pm . Reply

      I’m reading elsewhere that he could be with the Colombia U-20’s until mid-February.
      Looks like a long-term signing rather than someone who’s going to be playing in the 1st team anytime soon (barring any more injuries to our regulars…).

      As for Archer, I think he needs to put in some spectacular performances at ‘Boro if he’s going to make it back into the reckoning at Villa for next season.

      1. Hitchens60
        Hitchens60 January 17, 2023 at 7:24 am . Reply

        Ardent, it seems he’s playing in an U20’s tournament in Columbia which starts next week and he’s their star player. Strong tournament includes Brazil and Argentina and Columbia are keen to try and win it hence their reluctance to let him come to the UK for medical etc.

  19. Texas Villan
    Texas Villan January 16, 2023 at 9:25 pm . Reply

    Had to chuckle reading Badger’s comments about Moreno not lookin good when he came on but made the team of the week for Garth Crooks. I didn’t see the game so can’t comment, personally.

    1. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum January 16, 2023 at 11:44 pm . Reply

      I thought he looked the dogs. Let’s hope it’s maintained.

    2. badger123
      badger123 January 17, 2023 at 7:28 pm . Reply

      Hang on Tex, in my defence I did say he looked like someone who’d never played in the Prem and wasn’t ready (or words to that effect).
      And I also said he got better and looked very decent by the end of the game. 🙂

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