Game highlights here
I listened to the game on AVTV and it sounds like we played quite well overall.
Of course the point has been made on here by certain fans, that Rotherham are a poor team, but you can only beat what you have in front of you.
We apparently did that very comfortably today and as far as I’m concerned you can’t do much more than that.
By the same token, we’ll meet better sides who will give us a much tougher test and that’s where we’ll see more of what we’re really about, but for today we should just be happy that we got the result.
Tony Morley is a bloke I respect and his view was that Gestede, McCormack, Ayew and Grealish all played well along with Elphick and Chester at the back.
Gestede particularly seems to have had a great game, having scored two goals from headers and being close with another effort. It just shows that if you give him the service, he’ll get you goals and the crossing was excellent today.
Ayew did well and had the right hump when he was subbed and possibly rightly so, as Morley said he’d been our most creative player, particularly in the second half. But then it’s a long season in the Championship, and we’ll need to rest players as much as possible.
It was also nice to see Grealish’s name on the scoresheet too, after he rounded the keeper and scored from a very wide angle.
Overall, that’s three points towards the tally we’ll need to avoid the imminent relegation that we’re facing, if you listen to some and I’m one happy bunny, who’s out for a few beers later to celebrate.
Happy days!
Where are you Hitchins????your one of the happy villa family mate.you get the odd arsehole on here now & then who goes well beyond opinions.great win yesterday & I’ve still got an erection.
Thanks Giddy, still following. Badger and OohAh been in touch which is much appreciated. Off on hols for a month so posting difficult but will follow the debate.
Great win yesterday. – OK it’s Rotherham but we have to win these games if we want promotion. Still enjoying my hangover!
Bill pearson kindly let me know as I missed all the crap going last night enjoy your hols Alan wicker lol 😀 get it down yer mate.
That’s great Hitch, I ask Giddy because of what Badger intermated in his post, sent Badger an email to find out, was going to call you mate, that idiot tried it on before with me but didn’t work, glad all settled, let’s get back to getting behind our club , good result and hopefully more to come.
Ditto 😀
Hi Hitchy (or should that be Arnie?) I’ll be back – 60
Sally Morgan’s got f##kall on me
(give me a Crystal ball and cross my Palm with silver).
Hey Hicthy (aka Lazarus) did the return pan out something like this?
Dr Badger – Hi Hitchy, come in sit down, now what can I do for you?
H60 – It’s, well, my ego Doc.
Dr Badger – And what seems to be the matter with it?
H60 – Well Doc, I believe I may have Stubbed it.
Dr B – Come place it here on the couch, let me give that ego a little rub. That feeling better?
H60 – Much, thanks Dr B.
Dr B – No problem Mr H, no don’t forget to post at least three times a day and you’ll be back to normal in no time.
BWS,
Pack it in mate.
Stick to arguing the points made and not having constant digs at people, please.
Fair enough Badger but don’t you think that just maybe some people are just a little too sensitive to any sort of criticism?
And come on Badger you’ve to give me my prediction was spot on.
BWS,
It doesn’t matter what I think.
I think anyone can put up with the odd dig or bit of banter, but when it looks like it’s consistently targetted, it doesn’t matter, it’s out of order and frankly bullying, imo.
That’s why Stubbs went, it’s as simple as that. Even that grieved me, as I believe it’s healthy to have dissenters. The last thing we want is to have posters all in agreement. But it has to be kept civil.
You’re a good poster with good points when you stick to what’s relevant and there’s no need for it mate.
Me, I just want an easy life and don’t want to be banning anybody.
Anyway, I’m sure people don’t want to read us talking about how we should behave, so that’s it now. Subject closed.
And if he/she/ hermaphrodite/transgender finds that offensive then they really do need to get out more 😮
BWS – criticism is fine and so is having a different view or arguement but personal abuse is not acceptable in my book. You don’t know anything about me so you have no right to call into question my gender, my beliefs or my mental state of health.
Fwiw I am honest enough to accept that I probably over reacted in a haze of alchohol but that doesn’t change the fact that the comments made by Stubbs were completely out of order.
No comment.
I thought you were away and it was difficult to post?
What a lovely feeling it is to wake up the morning after with a hangover but feeling really happy that we won for once😃 I could get used to this
Now let’s get the signings in we need and push on from here on in utv
Yes a villa win beats an orgasm may it continue Utv VTID SOTC
I don’t know about that Giddy?that last time I remembered was saying how about it? The reply was you’ve had that, and I cannot remember.think age caught up with me.
Mate I can only relate to the villa win can’t remember the last time I had an orgasm so I’m happy to take the win.UTV
Never mind Giddy ,just hope you get it once or twice a week then. 🙂 😀
Lol 😀 fingers crossed mate
Looks like Jedinak will be coming tomorrow;
http://www.footballinsider247.com/reliable-journalist/
Hope so just what we need
I think he’d be great for us.
There is the concern that he’s 32, but if the aim is to just get one or two seasons out of him, fair enough.
Obviously his last payday, so he isn’t going to be cheap and will probably be on 3 years min, but that’s how it is.
32 is ok look at ibramhimoc at utd. Defoe etc. The youngsters will do his running for him while he tells them how to play the game properly
Be careful mate.
You nearly sounded positive then 🙂
😄😄
Not happy about loan signing Bamford. They only care about their own performance never fight for the cayse
Yeah they might only care about their own performance, but too prove to their parent club they’re good enough, they pretty much have to improve everyone around them with their play. I agree, I don’t want Bamford either, but that’s just because he’s really not that good. Was awful at Palace, 1 decent loan to Middlesbrough doesn’t make him talented.
Terrible player, an absolute shower. In all honesty I just don’t see what Chelsea see in him and all those goals for Middlesbrough, that player of the Championship award?
He’s not a patch on the enormous talents of Westwood, Hutton and Bacuna.
Yeah, and that season before that where he had… 8 whole goals for Derby. Man he was a monster. I don’t see why a RB, a defensive midfielder and a utility player shouldn’t be able to at least match that. Don’t forget his 0 goals in 7 games at Norwich last season after he was sent back by Palace because he was simply too good for them with his 0 goals there too.
Andy mate, I concur.
You’ve posted before what giants of game Westwood and Bucuna are so I trust your insight and judgment.
IV never seen him play tbh so can’t judge. Sounds like someone who will produce in flashes but not consistent.
YouTubed him and he looks quite handy but then again who don’t?
He was player of the Championship 14/15 playing for Borro and is highly rated by Chelsea but seems to be lacking something for the Premiership, what that something is I don’t know.
He’s already proven he’s got what it takes at this level during his time at Borro.
Bamford and Jedinak at the same club? Not again, the pair had a falling out at Palace, so I think whoever is to be second in will probably decline.
What is wrong with Bamford? He is 6′ 1″ and 11st 3lb so he can’t play as a target man with a 13st centre half up his ass. He could play off a CF, Adam Lallana makes a fair job of it.
That’s a pity, Bamford looks useful (at championship level) but if forced to choose then for obvious reasons it has to be Jedinak.
Not convinced by the Bamford idea – but Jedinak would bring just the sort of ‘steel’ that we’ve lacked at Villa for a good few years now.
If his move comes off, I wouldn’t worry about his age at all – he should be good for a couple of years yet.
Great addition imo hopefully more to follow
Any thoughts about the BMail’s story saying that Steve Round is about to be appointed Technical Director?
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/exclusive-aston-villa-set-unveil-11747181
First time I have ever seen a Technical Director’s job described as ‘improving the club’s dealings in the transfer market’. Anyway has Riley finally gone, someone else is lined up for his job?
Should be an adept at unsettling players and tapping them up if he learnt anything at Man Utd.
It’s a bit odd because just a month ago the BMail was reporting that the club were bringin in Andrew Stone [from Southampton] as “Head of Performance Analysis and Technical Recruitment”.
As for Riley, I can’t find anything definitive as to whether he’s still there or not – since Xia’s comments apparently slating his results a couple of months ago – although I’d guess that he’s quietly been paid-off and disappeared?
The Riley case is extraordinary. Normally a new owner gets shot of the previous owners first team ‘performance’ staff. Stadium staff usually survive. It is not as if Riley was some star, quite the reverse. I guessed, and it is only a guess, that the Telegraph story about fraud in the scouting set-up meant that Riley’s compensation for loss of office would be disputed, and that was taking the time.
Not another technical director. What does that even mean? They are usually overpaid jobsworths that think they are more imp than the manager and are little more than number crunchers
I saw a week or two back that Riley is still here, but other than that, I couldn’t say.
I thought he’d already collected his P45 but no, he’s still gainfully employed at VP and was on a scouting trip down at the Molinuex the other night.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-who-paddy-riley-11729607
Yep, that’s the story I saw.
Very strange, as even the article suggests that we want him out.
He must have someone by the balls, it seems.
Or Lerner gave him some water-tight contract-for-life that’s going to be very expensive to terminate [- a bit like Shabby]?
So we may have a Jedi joining the ranks soon. The force will be with us this season 🙂
Breaking news – Tuttosport £17m (Euros) and personal terms agreed for Amadou Diawara. Apparently keen to play in the championship. If this comes off, what a fantastic statement of intent by Dr Xia in building a string future for Villa.
What are other peoples views?
He is not the future for villa though. If any good he will piss off to a sky bore club as per normal
My feelings exactly – I’m guessing he’s coming with a view to some EPL club picking him up in the January window…
Shut up again, Oohah mate.
If this works (which I have serious doubts about), he’ll have a proper transfer clause in and it will make millions.
Knowing us, it’ll just be another failure though.
Who’s sanctioned this, I wonder?
What’s the point in that. Big deal we make more millions but there has to come a time when we have to keep our best players and build around them not just keep selling them on. It’s pointless. West Ham in theory could of won the league if they had kept the Ferdinands, Lampards, Cole, Tevez etc. Instead they were just a feeder club for the sky four. Maybe not so much now as things have changed for them but u see my point
Sid, I’ve seen that and have being trying to translate the original, to no avail.
I’m rubbing my eyes, trying to confirm it in my head.
That’s megabucks for a defensive mid kid.
I really don’t know what to think, apart from yes, it’s a massive signal of intent.
Keen to play in the Championship?
Yes, right.
The money is the best his agents could get, more like.
Monster risk, imo, but I’m not knocking it, as it’ll get Xia his headline, no doubt.
See that someone’s been into his Wiki page [about 1/2 hour ago] and already edited ot to say he’s a Villa player!
He sounds like a right mercenary wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole tbh
I know we are bruised from the Learner years. However, I think under Dr Xia Villa are trying to future proof Premiership survival for next season. There are a number of players who will be shifted off the books next year. Plus they don’t want 11 player who are all Championship quality. The more premier quality secured now, whose best days are yet to come the better.
I can certainly understand that logic: I’ve been saying for months that there’s a huge difference between what’s needed to get back up, and what’ll be needed if/when we do.
It’s just that this particular transfer seems like one that we don’t really need for the job in hand, whereas this kid doesn’t seem like one who’ll still be here by the time we get back to the top-flight [if he’s actually any good]!
I can’t believe we are back on the “moneyball” strategy already.
Could it be Westwood to be sold, as some sources are indicating. It would then allow either Tshibola and Diawara to be in centre of midfield allowing the likes of Grealish, Green, Ayew and Traore to attack.
Or if Jedinak is coming Tshobola and Diawara rotate – both are young and can learn from an experienced player, before taking over from him.
Now here is a crystal ball, except for Jedinak, all could have very long term future at Villa?
Sid, not moneyball as such, because it’s a different level, but it would explain how Xia works.
Jedinek is quite old and there won’t be much return from him, for example.
It’s about buying the players that are needed at this particular time.
I suspect this specific deal is about something else, in headline grabbing.
Which is great if it comes off, as it goes to adding to the aim of making us a massive club.
But I see it ending in tears, along with the way Xia posts on Twitter.
Sorry, I’m loving this kind of thing, but I think it’s doomed to failure.
If RDM has sanctioned this signing, I’ll be amazed.
Oh. if it means Westwood out, it will be worth it.
Agree Badger Jeninek is what we need now and his age means nothing. Look how good Zola was at an older age. As long as he looks after himself it’s no problem.
Wikipedia now has Diawara as a Villa player! Could be someone typing over Bologna as it is in red and has his appearances from last year against Villa
Here’s another one where Xia might prove to be a breath of fresh air;
http://www.insidefutbol.com/2016/08/14/seems-urgent-arsenal-drubbing-jolts-aston-villa-owner-over-academy-reform/299844/
We might well meet all the metrics at the academy, which makes us look the best in the game.
But the fact is it doesn’t produce in the way that others do.
Bring on the changes, imo.
First thing Lerner did was revamp academy and BMH. We won the next gen and still no youth players have come through and established themselves. Clarke and baker are woeful
Clark wasn’t bad. He would’ve done okay next to Elphick. He reminded me of Davies. Very good next to Laursen, but put him next to someone who can’t lead and yes he’ll put in a challenge but he won’t know what to do with himself.
Lerner’s academy plan seemed to be get them out as quick as possible, and almost kinda screw the future. We needed a Manchester City plan, where you gather the best to the U13’s-U15’s and let them grow together. They’ll soon gather from that.
Also other than Houllier we’ve yet to really have a manager with any gull to bring through youth, I think Garde would’ve brought through more if we were successful or he stayed.
Problem is, if we start signing youth players, our fans will start crying they’re not 27 year old’s who can replace so and so, instead they’re 16 year old’s for the future.
So Clarke’s yet another world better to go with Hutton, Westwood, Bacuna and well, all of last seasons relegation squad?
Now come on Andrew let’s think about this, maybe the reason the team was relegated was…
They weren’t good enough??
Just a thought mate.
*beater *
Is there any academy that’s consistently produced players that have gone on to established themselves in the first team?
(The class of 92 being the exception).
Yes Southampton!
True they have produced a few going back as far as Le Tissier.
Guess he wants to bring the academy into the 21st Century.
We need the people who know how to run academies, new directors down to coaches. I’d look at the models of Ajax, Porto, or even the likes of Espanyol who keep producing talent if we can’t match the first two. Look into the Spanish style of academies, or Ligue 2. None produce better than Ligue 2 academies.
Cant understand why Stubbs got banned whilst BWS has abused both myself and my family on here for over 3 years! He is the main reason for me not posting on here anymore. Whereas, Stubbs posts were mainly ‘banter’, BWS comments were bang out of order, discriminatory and abusive!
Double standards?……you bet they are!
And now he’s been gently warned, Langford.
If it happens again, be sure to mail me.
Lol.
So you find abuse amusing?……no more please.
Langford you’re hardly a shrinking violet.
Dreadful news about Dalian Atkinson, one of my favourite ever Villa players. RIP big man.
R I P Dalian ,
scored some great goal for the villa also one of my favourite players when i was a kid.
Sad,sad lose. Yes magical moment that gaol at Wembley, rest in peace Dalian.
R.I.P Dalian, absolutely gutted.
That’s such a shock. And so young. Terrible news. RIP Dalian